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Posted: 07/20/21 10:11am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Just read the highest brand loyalty on thid planet for vehicles is Subaru and Toyota.
Speaks volumes. Respect is earned.

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Rumor is Toyota is ditching the V8's and installing a 3.5 twin turbo and perhaps a hybrid configuration.

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FishOnOne wrote:

Rumor is Toyota is ditching the V8's and installing a 3.5 twin turbo and perhaps a hybrid configuration.

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That’s ballsy, IMO.
I mean, a lot of people like the Ecoboost and it’s definitely a great option, but there are way more “big V8s” sold every year and I think it will hurt tundra sales if the only big engine is a high rpm rice grinder motor. Heck, their 5.7 is powerful and dependable. I’d be slow to take that option off the table


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Posted: 08/13/21 08:49am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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Grit dog wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Rumor is Toyota is ditching the V8's and installing a 3.5 twin turbo and perhaps a hybrid configuration.

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That’s ballsy, IMO.
I mean, a lot of people like the Ecoboost and it’s definitely a great option, but there are way more “big V8s” sold every year and I think it will hurt tundra sales if the only big engine is a high rpm rice grinder motor. Heck, their 5.7 is powerful and dependable. I’d be slow to take that option off the table


Problem with the “big V8” is they are always thirsty (especially true with the Toyota 5.7). Turbo engines are more efficient when not worked and you keep your foot out of it (like during EPA testing).

I think it’s a smart move, and an engine they already have in their portfolio on their Lexus line.


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Grit dog wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Rumor is Toyota is ditching the V8's and installing a 3.5 twin turbo and perhaps a hybrid configuration.

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That’s ballsy, IMO.
I mean, a lot of people like the Ecoboost and it’s definitely a great option, but there are way more “big V8s” sold every year and I think it will hurt tundra sales if the only big engine is a high rpm rice grinder motor. Heck, their 5.7 is powerful and dependable. I’d be slow to take that option off the table


If the Toyota V6 is anything like the Ecoboost it's not going need to spin high rpms. The Ecoboost makes its peak torque at a much lower rpm than the 5.0, and I expect Toyota's motor will be the same way.

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I used a 3.5 EcoBoost V6 F150 company truck - I liked it.

I figured a V10 EcoBoost version would be a nice tow motor for RV’n.

A 7.3 EcoBoost on gasohol would work too.

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You would think Toyota would have turbocharged their 4.0 V6 that they use in the Tacoma now.

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rjstractor wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Rumor is Toyota is ditching the V8's and installing a 3.5 twin turbo and perhaps a hybrid configuration.

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That’s ballsy, IMO.
I mean, a lot of people like the Ecoboost and it’s definitely a great option, but there are way more “big V8s” sold every year and I think it will hurt tundra sales if the only big engine is a high rpm rice grinder motor. Heck, their 5.7 is powerful and dependable. I’d be slow to take that option off the table


If the Toyota V6 is anything like the Ecoboost it's not going need to spin high rpms. The Ecoboost makes its peak torque at a much lower rpm than the 5.0, and I expect Toyota's motor will be the same way.


Yes good points for sure. I still don’t think as a top mfg, I’d kick the “traditional” “big V8” to the curb and only offer 1 “big engine”. If nothing else, even if 99% of the private buyers prefer a more complicated twin turbo V6 (which I don’t think is likely), you are certainly limiting your commercial sales where the “newest and bestest” ( read, more expensive and potentially not as proven) doesn’t win sales.
In 25 years in an industry that buys ALOT of pickup trucks, that industry decidedly does not buy near as many Ecoboost and Turbodiesel trucks as they do good old fashioned old tech, NA V8s.

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Power wise it'll likely blow the 5.7 out of the water at ANY rpm. Big question is would it match Toyota V8s for reliability? Well, they're confident enough to put it into the new Land Cruiser, whose reputation is built on 300 - 500k mile life.

Reliability is one of the few (if not only) reason why any one would buy a Tundra in 2020 / 2021. Other than that the domestics are better in almost every other way.

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