RV.Net Open Roads Forum: Can tires be off ground on auto leveling system?

RV Blog

  |  

RV Sales

  |  

Campgrounds

  |  

RV Parks

  |  

RV Club

  |  

RV Buyers Guide

  |  

Roadside Assistance

  |  

Extended Service Plan

  |  

RV Travel Assistance

  |  

RV Credit Card

  |  

RV Loans

Open Roads Forum Already a member? Login here.   If not, Register Today!  |  Help

Newest  |  Active  |  Popular  |  RVing FAQ Forum Rules  |  Forum Posting Help and Support  |  Contact  

Search:   Advanced Search

Search only in Tech Issues

Open Roads Forum  >  Tech Issues

 > Can tires be off ground on auto leveling system?

Reply to Topic  |  Subscribe  |  Print Topic  |  Post New Topic  | 
Page of 4  
Next
Sponsored By:
mrad

Prineton, MN

Senior Member

Joined: 08/23/2007

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 06/21/21 11:10pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

when we pulled into our campground yesterday, the auto-leveling system was off a bit. I had to raise one side a bit and then noticed that two of the tires on one side were between 1/4 and 1/2 inch off the ground.
I don't feel comfortable with this, but since this is the third time out with our 5th wheel, I wanted to know if this is acceptable, or if I need to make some adjustments.

rk911

DuPage County

Senior Member

Joined: 05/30/2004

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 06/21/21 11:33pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

i don't like that either so i carry 8 pieces of plywood in assorted thicknesses to use under the tire(s) when that happens.


Rich
Ham Radio, Sport Pilot, Retired 9-1-1 Call Center Administrator
_________________________________
2016 Itasca Suncruiser 38Q
'46 Willys CJ2A
'03 Jeep Wrangler TJ
'10 Jeep Liberty KK

& MaggieThe Wonder Beagle

CA Traveler

The Western States

Senior Member

Joined: 01/03/2004

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 06/21/21 11:51pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

With tires off of the ground any tire locking mechanism isn't effective.


2009 Holiday Rambler 42' Scepter with ISL 400 Cummins
750 Watts Solar Morningstar MPPT 60 Controller
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland

Bob


pennysmom09

Delaware

Senior Member

Joined: 02/06/2013

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 06/22/21 05:37am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Since we’ve parked this way quite often and had no issues when lowered, it seems safe to assume it causes no harm.


Nancy and Doug
2015 KZ Durango 325RL FW


wa8yxm

Davison Michigan (East of Flint)

Senior Member

Joined: 07/04/2006

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 06/22/21 05:40am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Motor homes
There are those who claim lifting the front tires off the ground will damage the suspension.. This is Male Bovine Produced Organic Fertilizer (BS) as the suspension system won't have any issues with it unless the suspension is worn beyond need for replacement.

HOWEVER only one tire not both Reason follows

And on the rear.. Most Motor homes use drive shaft parking brakes So if one wheel is off the ground there is no parking brake as that wheel can turn freely.

So if you have both front, (or one rear) wheel off the ground and there is a "Stiff breeze" say 80-100 MPH (Been there 4 down) You may get blown away.

IN fact it it would take a whole lot less than 80mph. as little as 5-10 can do it.

Trailers... No parking brakes so the above does not apply
BUT I'd still not want to have both sides off the ground as.. Well.. the jacks are not really designed for that kind of support and it's way to easy to pretzel them.


Home was where I park it. but alas the.
2005 Damon Intruder 377 Alas declared a total loss
after a semi "nicked" it. Still have the radios
Kenwood TS-2000, ICOM ID-5100, ID-51A+2, ID-880 REF030C most times


D.E.Bishop

Eagle Rock, CA

Senior Member

Joined: 08/09/2001

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 06/22/21 05:51am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have never seen a leveling system that had lateral support built into it. Leveling systems by name, indicate vertical support not foundational support.

Disclaimer: Just because I have not seen one does not indicate they do not exist.

Your question had to do with a trailer and I have very limited experience in that area but safety first is always best. I would not raise my Motorhome off the ground with the hydraulic jacks.


"I travel not to go anywhere, but to go. I travel for travel's sake. The great affair is to go". R. L. Stevenson

David Bishop
2002 Winnebago Adventurer 32V
2009 GMC Canyon
Roadmaster 5000
BrakeBuddy Classic II


Lantley

Ellicott City, Maryland

Senior Member

Joined: 08/23/2005

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 06/22/21 05:56am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I put block under the wheels if the site is so unlevel that the level system lifts them off the ground when leveling. I do not want all the weight solely on the jacks.
I do not believe the jacks are robust enough to support the weight.
I take the "Better safe than sorry approach."


19'Duramax w/hips,12'Open Range,Titan Disc Brake
BD3,RV safepower,22" Blackstone
Ox Bedsaver,RV760 w/BC20,Glow Steps, Enduraplas25,Pedego
BakFlip,RVLock,5500 Onan LP,Prog.50A surge,Hughes autoformer
Porta Bote 8.0 Nissan,Sailun S637
Correct Trax,Splendide


phillyg

SWFL

Senior Member

Joined: 04/24/2002

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 06/22/21 06:32am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Have had a couple of instances where the tires were off the ground, I had no wood, and I was fine for a few days' stay. I don't think its a big deal.


--2005 Ford F350 Lariat Crewcab 6.0, 4x4, 3.73 rear
--2016 Montana 3711FL, 40'
--2014 Wildcat 327CK, 38' SOLD

StirCrazy

Kamloops, BC, Canada

Senior Member

Joined: 07/16/2003

View Profile



Posted: 06/22/21 06:41am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

your leveling system will in most cases take most of the weight off the tires when it does its thing. at least mine does, thats why they are so solid compared to the ols hand jacks we used to put down. if I am in a very unlevel site it will usaly lift one set of tires off the ground depending on how good a job I do with my blocks. it has never bothered me and still feels exactly the same inside..

Steve


2014 F350 6.7 Platinum
2016 Cougar 330RBK

ford truck guy

Pennsylvania

Senior Member

Joined: 03/22/2008

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 06/22/21 06:42am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I am with philyg . .

When I can, I will use a blocks of wood to get the fifth wheel "more level" before using the 6 point system...

But like stated, there are times that I did not realize it and unhooked and hit auto level. The result was 1 side being anywhere from 1/2" up to 1" off the ground with no ILL effects.

Not to mention...my 6 jack cylinders are rated at 8,000# EACH... with the RV only being 16,500# loaded, the system is well within its capacities

* This post was edited 06/22/21 06:48am by ford truck guy *


Me-Her-the kids
2020 Ford F350 SD 6.7
2020 Redwood 3991RD Garnet


Reply to Topic  |  Subscribe  |  Print Topic  |  Post New Topic  | 
Page of 4  
Next

Open Roads Forum  >  Tech Issues

 > Can tires be off ground on auto leveling system?
Search:   Advanced Search

Search only in Tech Issues


New posts No new posts
Closed, new posts Closed, no new posts
Moved, new posts Moved, no new posts

Adjust text size:




© 2021 CWI, Inc. © 2021 Good Sam Enterprises, LLC. All Rights Reserved.