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Michelle.S

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Posted: 06/22/21 01:51pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If you're going to put blocks under the tires to prevent them from being off the ground, WHY did you buy an Auto Leveling System if you won't let it do it's job.
I've had tires just touching to off the ground by 4 or 5 inches. Hasn't broke our unit yet.


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Michelle.S wrote:

If you're going to put blocks under the tires to prevent them from being off the ground, WHY did you buy an Auto Leveling System if you won't let it do it's job.
I've had tires just touching to off the ground by 4 or 5 inches. Hasn't broke our unit yet.
My thoughts and experience as well.
I don't worry about it at all. But then, I do not have a Lippert frame! [emoticon] Just kidding around, not trying to start a war!


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

"If it really is just touching (you can spin it by hand), that's really no better than off the ground."

That's my point!!!


Then don't do that.


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wnjj wrote:

Why not attach rubber to the bottom of the jacks if you’re concerned about movement? That way you are just trading a tire for a post.


The concern isn't that they metal pads will slide but that the arms will bend. A rubber bottom does nothing to stop that.

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Does anyone have any real experience or first hand knowledge of jack arms bending by having the wheels off the ground under normal camping circumstances? I've never heard of one. I know I have seen hundreds of various RV's with wheels in the air while camping. I don't recall any of them having an issue. My FW is far more stable on 6 jacks if I put the whole thing in the air than just the tires.


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Far better to support the tires and use them as stabilizers as they are intended.


actualy the owners manual for mine states they are levelers not stabalizers, I think a lot of people thing they are the same thing as the old crank down jacks we use to use. they are engineered to be able to level and hold more than the weight of the rv.

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We have a 16k lb 5er with MORryde IS, and snap pads on the levelers. When IS was installed the tech lifted the whole trailer up for two days (and we slept in it) with the hydraulics - he didn’t even use backup blocking for support. Even when wheels and previous suspension was cut off so there was nothing but 2ft of space and the levelers between the frame and ground (NOT recommended when getting under it)!

After this experience I don’t worry at all if the auto level puts wheels in the air or not. Truth be told, there’s more stability if wheels are touching, but not so much I worry about it. We travel about half-time, switching campsites every couple/few days. I’d guess we have two, or all, wheels up about 25% of the time. Hasn’t been an issue in 2+yrs.


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valhalla360 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

"If it really is just touching (you can spin it by hand), that's really no better than off the ground."

That's my point!!!


Then don't do that.


I have zero issue with one or all tires off the ground.


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way2roll wrote:

Does anyone have any real experience or first hand knowledge of jack arms bending by having the wheels off the ground under normal camping circumstances? I've never heard of one. I know I have seen hundreds of various RV's with wheels in the air while camping. I don't recall any of them having an issue. My FW is far more stable on 6 jacks if I put the whole thing in the air than just the tires.


Maybe if in an earthquake.

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MNRon wrote:

We have a 16k lb 5er with MORryde IS, and snap pads on the levelers. When IS was installed the tech lifted the whole trailer up for two days (and we slept in it) with the hydraulics - he didn’t even use backup blocking for support. Even when wheels and previous suspension was cut off so there was nothing but 2ft of space and the levelers between the frame and ground (NOT recommended when getting under it)!

After this experience I don’t worry at all if the auto level puts wheels in the air or not. Truth be told, there’s more stability if wheels are touching, but not so much I worry about it. We travel about half-time, switching campsites every couple/few days. I’d guess we have two, or all, wheels up about 25% of the time. Hasn’t been an issue in 2+yrs.


Same experience with ours, ZERO extra support. The tech was crawling around UNDER the RV a lot. MORryde is a big company, if it were a safety issue they would have supported the RV.

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