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Sagebrush

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Posted: 07/23/21 11:40am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Sagebrush wrote:

Walmart had many Endurance 225's in the Birmingham, AL warehouse a few days ago, $145 per and $12 for balancing. I just checked on them, my local store doesn't stock them, but it only takes a day to get them. They use FedEx Ground, the warehouse is only 100 miles away. But, they don't have any high pressure valve stems in stock and they have been out for over two months.

I had to get mine from local NAPA stores last week. Short bolt in valve stems are hard to come by around here. It took two stores and 70 miles to get five new bolt in stems. Etrailer couldn't supply them either, they didn't have the .453 grommets.


May not be relevant to you with the distance. My experience with American Tire in Rancho Cucamonga, CA and Discount Tire in Reno were topnotch. The latter even gave me a lifetime (to the tires, lol) wheel balancing for my Goodyear 4 off road tires.


Thats a little far from me, Walmart has lifetime balance for $14 per tire. But, I never re-balance trailer tires, so I just do the regular one time balancing for $12.

My Local Walmart has a good tire shop, I've been using them more and more lately. I put Coopers on the CRV and they did an excellent job at a great price. I usually avoid Walmart tire service, but I've had three good experiences with them lately. The prices online are better than in store with the tire brands I wanted.

The trailer tires were $99.98 in store and $70.12 online, just bought some last week. So, $82.12 mounted and balanced plus tax for 225/75/R15 Mastertrack E's. They don't like dually trucks though, so I go to an independent tire dealer for my truck tires.

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Dtank wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

I have a lot more confidence in US or Japanese branded tires even if marked Made in China as I'm pretty sure it was made under our standards and strict supervision.


"Branded tires".

The (mainland) Chinese are very capable of manufacturing tires to the buyers specifications!

Michelin has mfg facilities in China along with other brands who put their BRAND NAME on the tires.

However - even YOU can be a distributor of YOUR brand of tires mfg in China to YOUR specs.

Simplified:
YOU place the minimum order for "Yosemite" Tires, have them shipped to the USA, line up distributors and you're good to go.

Also,cut a deal with trailer manufactures to equip their product with Yosemite tires - which meet the desired load range for the trailer.
(Think "Bean Counters"!)

Soooo maybe lots of complaints and tire failures! Next batch gets a new brand name. If folks are happy with their "Yosemites", they get good reviews (like in this thread).

When a company has THEIR name on the tire - their expectations (and specs) are higher....Ex: Michelin.

Unfortunately - sometimes even USA mfg tires can be losers! Ex: USA mfg Goodyear Marathons from a few years ago. The Airstream forums have (negative) threads that never stopped - but would be deleted or closed on other forums. If you bought a new trlr a few years ago, it had USA mfg GY Marathons (with lots of unhappy folks on RV Net also).

My Marathons developed bubbles & tread seperation in the first year, with a mimimal load range (D) for a 10K (unloaded) trlr.

Best of luck -and trouble free miles- with your choice of shoes!

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noteven wrote:

Dtank wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

I have a lot more confidence in US or Japanese branded tires even if marked Made in China as I'm pretty sure it was made under our standards and strict supervision.


"Branded tires".

The (mainland) Chinese are very capable of manufacturing tires to the buyers specifications!

Michelin has mfg facilities in China along with other brands who put their BRAND NAME on the tires.

However - even YOU can be a distributor of YOUR brand of tires mfg in China to YOUR specs.

Simplified:
YOU place the minimum order for "Yosemite" Tires, have them shipped to the USA, line up distributors and you're good to go.

Also,cut a deal with trailer manufactures to equip their product with Yosemite tires - which meet the desired load range for the trailer.
(Think "Bean Counters"!)

Soooo maybe lots of complaints and tire failures! Next batch gets a new brand name. If folks are happy with their "Yosemites", they get good reviews (like in this thread).

When a company has THEIR name on the tire - their expectations (and specs) are higher....Ex: Michelin.

Unfortunately - sometimes even USA mfg tires can be losers! Ex: USA mfg Goodyear Marathons from a few years ago. The Airstream forums have (negative) threads that never stopped - but would be deleted or closed on other forums. If you bought a new trlr a few years ago, it had USA mfg GY Marathons (with lots of unhappy folks on RV Net also).

My Marathons developed bubbles & tread seperation in the first year, with a mimimal load range (D) for a 10K (unloaded) trlr.

Best of luck -and trouble free miles- with your choice of shoes!

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One line could be "Idgit Camels"


China can manufacturer whatever you want. Just bring a sample and give them the downpayment for minimum order.

Quality. Don't bet on it.

But if a US company control and supervises the manufacturing with veery specific quality materials and QA, it can be comparable to US made.

That's how I guide myself in buying anything around. US brand, wherever it's manufactured.

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A family friend runs his family trucking business, a few years back he changed the fleet over to Chinese (company and manufactured) tires after hearing so many good things about them.

He says they are far superior to the traditional brands in all aspects, and FAR less money.

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JaxDad wrote:

A family friend runs his family trucking business, a few years back he changed the fleet over to Chinese (company and manufactured) tires after hearing so many good things about them.

He says they are far superior to the traditional brands in all aspects, and FAR less money.


Wonder who you can sue for damages in case failure of the tire due to faulty manufacturing.

Or would the manufacture in China even respond?

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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

JaxDad wrote:

A family friend runs his family trucking business, a few years back he changed the fleet over to Chinese (company and manufactured) tires after hearing so many good things about them.

He says they are far superior to the traditional brands in all aspects, and FAR less money.


Wonder who you can sue for damages in case failure of the tire due to faulty manufacturing.

Or would the manufacture in China even respond?


You don’t actually believe that a Chinese company (or any other international company) has no domestic presence and the cash flow is entirely offshore with no ability to go after it do you?

Michelin’s money all goes straight to France?

Toyo’s money all goes straight to Japan?

Pirelli’s money all goes straight to Italy?

BTW, “superior” means “better than” ………

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China can manufacturer whatever you want. Just bring a sample and give them the downpayment for minimum order.

Quality. Don't bet on it.

But if a US company control and supervises the manufacturing with veery specific quality materials and QA, it can be comparable to US made.

That's how I guide myself in buying anything around. US brand, wherever it's manufactured.


Goodyear tried twice to move their trailer tire production to China, they kept producing junk. Now Goodyear makes their trailer tires in the USA.





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Actually Goodyear Marathons were made in the USA many years before moving them out of the USA. The orig made in USA Marathons were basically a 3500-5000 mile tire before throwing their treads or internal structure issues.
Goodyear improved them a bit some time in the Y2K era with a circle S stamped on the side wall but due to their narrow tread design on a 75 series carcass they were still prone to failures especially high mileage trailers. We called them Goodyear may pops.
Being a niche tire the materials and tooling/molds were moved to china

In 2017 Goodyear did a complete redesign on their ST tire with the Endurance. The Endurance lost that basket ball shape carcass and a narrow tread. Goodyear points this tire more to RV type trailer with the very thin 8/32nds tread depth. The tire is very popular on rv websites.


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Maybe further state the fact that since their introduction they have had ZERO reported non road hazard failures.

Tread may be thin but mine are dated 2017 and have around 20k and they may have lost 1/16" of the tread. Rubber compound plays a HUGE part in how long a tire lasts.


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We ran Sailuns 635-16-80 which are G rated for years in our toyhowler. We replaced them with Samson’s 635-16-80 also G rated due to axel problems and have had no issues. Prior to that, 2010-11 we had Towmax and had several blowouts.


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