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MEXICOWANDERER

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Posted: 07/04/21 03:41pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Just for fun I'll mention life in Mexico

  • Standard service drops are 30 amp 127 volt
  • Service drop cables are 1 8 gauge conductor and one 1/4" galvanized neutral
  • Premium service is a pair of 6 gauge conductors and a 3/8" galvanized neutral
  • Homeowners seldom extend meter wiring of the same gauge. Most cases it's 14AWG
  • So a single 14 gauge feeds the entire service. Every lamp, every outlet
  • Walk into a hardware store and ask for a circuit breaker or fuse other than 30-amps and they'll look at you like you're nuts
  • The principal catastrophe averter is that non-concrete homes are non-existent
  • Morning protocol assignment is inventive
  • First coffee, then will it be toast or another electric preparation?
  • Single use. One-by-one. And don't have a computer compiling when coffee, bacon, or a potato is being processed
  • Air conditioner? Hmmm you really want to complicate breakfast don't you?


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Interesting about the galvanized neutral. Its just to save cost? I would think with alternating current you would want the positive and neutral being similar in size. Look at something like 12/3 romex with a shared neutral. So i guess it dont matter. But then again theyre not really sharing the neutral at the same time.

Been years...trying to remember stuff i learned 20 years ago.

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wopachop wrote:

Oh perfect!! You already have wire run in conduit over there. You should be able to get a standard 15a receptacle on that.

Depending on conduit size he might be able to pull thicker wire and give you a 30a setup. If you ever wanted to run heaters and stuff come winter 30a would be awesome.

If you post a picture of your service panel people here might be able to give advice on what to do. It could be really easy to put that outside junction box on its own 15 or 20a breaker. So its not sharing power with the house. I had to do that back home. We plug the trailer into the garage outlets. But it kept tripping the breaker. So i gave 1 outlet its own dedicated 20a breaker. The breaker was already there. Just had to swap wires around.

Ideally that outside junction box is already on its own circuit. Like you said it will be cheap to add an outlet right there.

Have you pulled the cover and taken a peek? Hopefully its not low voltage wire for outdoor lighting. If it looks like speaker wire then he will have to pull new wire.


The junction box does not seem to have a 3rd pop out spot. I may need a new one.

The power is on it's on breaker at the panel. There is also a power shut off in line, so isolating it is easy enough. It has been opened, and it is 120v heavy gauge wire.

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Grit dog wrote:

I’m confused…but good luck in your solution.


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Grit dog wrote:

I’m confused…but good luck in your solution.


Is this a statement of current condition or an ongoing problem? [emoticon]


Little of both! Lol
But now mostly confused that the OP appears to have power at the ready, or almost at the ready right where he wants it…
Pic is worth 1000 words, literally, for this query.


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I wonder if what is being are calling a galvanized neutral is in instead aluminum.

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It's magnetic. Sort of settles that question [emoticon]
Decades ago when I wired the hotel. I had a fit finding red plus black 6 gauge conductor for the 60-amp 254 volt service drop.

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RedRollingRoadblock wrote:

Three pieces of 1X4 or some 3/4 inch plywood by how ever long your need. Lay two pieces on either side of the cord and bridge the gap and cord with the third. Secure with small screws, washers and nuts.


X2!!


I wish you could do multiple quotes. This way because as others noted this is the way it's done by working men/women when we need to "do it right" on construction sites and trade shows


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Grit dog wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

I’m confused…but good luck in your solution.


Is this a statement of current condition or an ongoing problem? [emoticon]


Little of both! Lol
But now mostly confused that the OP appears to have power at the ready, or almost at the ready right where he wants it…
Pic is worth 1000 words, literally, for this query.


OP here. I didn't want it permanent. However, it seems that putting in an outlet is the cheaper option.

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Grit dog wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

I’m confused…but good luck in your solution.


Is this a statement of current condition or an ongoing problem? [emoticon]


Little of both! Lol
But now mostly confused that the OP appears to have power at the ready, or almost at the ready right where he wants it…
Pic is worth 1000 words, literally, for this query.


EXACTLY, sometimes the info given is not enough to give a proper answer.

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