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Longshore

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Posted: 07/09/21 07:28am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Buzzcut dare I ask what that set you back? Did you have to reprogram your truck?

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Posted: 07/09/21 07:41am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Longshore wrote:

Getting the truck right took longer because of the Covid related supply issues but I did this to simulate a full camper....

I had a full black and grey tank. Fresh was almost empty. Stocked the kitchen with pots and utensils and such. My clothes, camping gear like axe and battery powered chainsaw, a heavy tool box I will make much lighter. Truck had full fuel tank and full propane tanks.....

11,660. 160 over gross. The worst part is the rear axle is 7,300lbs which is 200 over GRAWR. Front axle was 4360lbs.

My thinking was the extra liquid weight would offset the absence of additional people. Black and grey tanks hold 30 gal. Each. Not sure how realistic a scenario this was...


I don't see a problem.


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Posted: 07/09/21 08:19am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I wouldn't lose sleep over a couple hundred pounds myself.

How new are the tires? How much camping are you planning on doing? I wouldn't worry much about the tires in the near term if they're fairly new. I'd plan on replacing the tires sooner rather than later especially if you plan on doing a lot of overloaded driving.


Putting 10-ply tires on half ton trucks since aught-four.

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mkirsch wrote:

I wouldn't lose sleep over a couple hundred pounds myself..


There are lot of variations burred in details and we all have different sleep.
I bought my 1st big camper having F250 pickup flatbed.
Even I moved spare tire on front bumper and bought new, highest capacity tires, the rear was still badly overloaded.
I removed rear generator and even put house batteries on front carrier to minimize rear overload.
Yet the basement camper on flatbed made for 13' of height and the vision of tire blow on high COG rig did not let me sleep.
3 months later I bought dually.





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Posted: 07/09/21 11:14am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I sleep just fine. [emoticon]

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Longshore wrote:

Buzzcut dare I ask what that set you back? Did you have to reprogram your truck?


Online you can get the tires for around $250 each and Same for the vision heavy hauler wheels. about $2000 then add shipping and tax plus mounting and balancing. I had a 4x4 and on my first set of Toyo 19.5s I had steer tires on the front. Never again those suckers wandered all over. Second set of tires were the Roadmasters and I went with Drive tires on all 4 corners. Great Choice. Sold the truck to my buddy 2 years ago, he has a lance 950 on it. The tires look like new and he takes that rig up and down some iffy forest service roads and really likes the tires performance.

My speedo matched my GPS with the 19.s (245/70R19.5) so no reprogramming needed


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Posted: 07/09/21 12:09pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

op wrote:

The worst part is the rear axle is 7,300lbs which is 200 over GRAWR

Its never a good idea to carry more weight than the tires/wheels rear spring pack is rated for. Upgrade tires and most likely a OEM wheel upgrade may be needed.

Having pulled heavy GN trailers for a living for years and seen the results from my own and other operators who over loaded...over pressured a OEM wheel I'm blown away by opinions on rv websites that a tire/wheel can carry more weight than the mfg ratings. Granted they can do it for a while but the wheel at some point in time and miles of service....cracked and broken centers or valleys or split tire beads seats were the result of that folly.


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It's just awful high on the numbers specta. I guess it comes down to the definition of problem? lol. Right now, the weak point is my tires.

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Appreciate all the input guys!

Tires are Michelin Defender one year old. E rated. But 3525lbs is as good as it gets in my size 18" wheel. I drove truck for years that at times were overloaded, always watched the equipment of course, but the weak point was always the tires.

As Buzzcut did, so may I.

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Posted: 07/10/21 06:30am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Most people do not travel with full black and grey tanks, they are usually rearward and screw up the balance and ride. If I'm driving longer distance, I only load about 50% water for overnighting until my destination. I water up before heading off to boondock.

60 gallons of black/grey is nearly 500 pounds of rearward weight. If you reweighed with 30 gallons of fresh you axel weights would come out better.

For tools, I carry a couple of screwdriver, pliers, minimum wrenches and a small ratchet driver set, shovel, axe and hammer. Small chainsaw if I think I need it. No 250 pounds of tools.

When I load out gear I use the back of the crew cab and side hamper storage to keep weight in between the axels. I installed a front hitch to mount a bike carrier or the spare tire for ease of use.

E rated tires are 10 ply rated and at 80 lbs of air a decent tire will be rated for around 3600 pounds. That is 3600 pounds under the harshest conditions possible so they are unlikely to fail at 3605 pounds except if you ask people here. They will simply wear out a tad faster than if you rode around with an empty truck and 55psi in them.

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