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Posted: 07/20/21 01:04pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hello,
I have a 2019 F-150 with the towing package and and considering getting a small fifth wheel rated as 1/2 ton towable. Does anyone have experience with this combination? If so, would you recommend or discourage? Pin weight, UVW, GVW all seem within specs for vehicle. Just don't want to make a mistake and have a problem with either the truck or the 5th wheel.

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Posted: 07/20/21 01:12pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Did you confirm the specs? Or did the seller or RV salesperson say all ok? Rare to see any 1/2 ton with a 5er.


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Posted: 07/20/21 01:57pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

There are some trailers that might fit your criteria, never use UVW as it means no propane, battery or filled water tanks or stuff. Plus you need to a drink all of the passengers weight. Some of the newer half tons are very capable and it's not all about the engine pulling it is also about the stopping and controlling.
It depends on the terrain also hills mountains or flatland and some salesmen will lie. From a F350 owner and a city wheel.


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Posted: 07/20/21 02:05pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Gvw will not be your worst problem, pin weight will. Take the gvw for the trailer and figure on 23 to 25% as pin weight. Ignore dry weights and published pin weights as they are not real world. Take the number you got and add the weight of a hitch, passengers, equipment you added to the truck and anything else you carry and there is a good chance you will be way over your payload capacity that is on the white and yellow sticker by your door.
Even with a lot of travel trailers a 150 runs out of payload before it runs out of max tow weight. Get more truck or less trailer.


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When their lips are moving salesman are............. I have tested them for fun and when bored with my experience of many years but acted like a newbie. Their mostly all the same Truck, RV, boat, etc. etc.

In case you are new to this beware of towing in this high heat of the west and the high mountains. Not same as flatlands in moderate temperatures. You will receive good advice from others with 5th Wheel experience as I towed TT with 1500 and 2500 Dodge Rams.

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Posted: 07/20/21 02:12pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If the specs are OK I would go for it. Have you loaded your people and stuff in the truck and ventured to a scale to verify the available capacities?


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Best is to load up your TV as if going camping with the RV.

People, Pets, ice chest, fire wood, etc, etc.

Then weigh it axle by axle.

Subtract the actual, rear axle weight from the TV’s door label listing the rear axle rating (GAWR)

That is what ‘your’ TV is rated to carry in the bed…AKA Fiver PIN weight in this case

Then you will know where you are in freference to your TV’s capacity


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Give us the payload of the truck (off the door jam) and a couple examples of the 1/2 ton towable 5th wheels that you are looking at.

Usually 1/2ton towable means, you have a max rated 1/2ton absolutely stripped of anything but the driver to stay within ratings.

Example: We used to have a relatively small 28ft 9000lb (GVWR) 5th wheel. Pin weight was 2050lb, 200lb for the hitch, 200-300 in misc stuff in the truck plus us....so about 2500lb total. Of course, we has a 3/4ton with 2700lb payload. Most 1/2 ton trucks don't have a 2500lb payload.


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Some Ford 150s are capable of carrying the pin wt of some 1/2 ton tow able fifth wheels. To get best answer, you would have to give more specific ratings of your exact truck, and best to give specs on exact fifth wheel.

As Ben suggests, it would help to weigh your truck axles separately, ready to camp, all passengers and gear loaded. If rear axle weighs 2,500 at scale, and RAWR is 4300, you could only add 1,800 more. This to include wt of a hitch, and pin wt of FW.

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1/2 ton is going to run out of payload LONG before running out of tow capacity. While there are 1/2 ton unicorns, most have not seem them in the wild.

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