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Posted: 07/26/21 04:22pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It appears that at least one RV was destroyed in this tragic incident.
More than 20 vehicles were involved and a contributing factor was a sand storm. We pray for all those involved.

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Posted: 07/26/21 04:58pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Sorry to hear this news. Knowing when to pull off the road and stop can save your life.


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It was the typical low visibility scenario. If people knew how to drive and when not to drive these things would happen less frequently. I was on the road last week and driving in some very low visibility rain. Amazing how many cars and trucks passed me as though the weather was clear.


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Posted: 07/26/21 09:26pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ok, I was confused at first. thought they were just sitting in their campers...
it was a highway accident. link

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Posted: 07/27/21 12:54am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Me too. I thought maybe the wind flipped their trailers.

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I think some of you have never driven in an area where these kinds of things happen. There is no preparing for it. A sandstorm or whiteout happens in seconds. Yes me minute it’s clear as a sunny day then seconds later zero, and I mean ZERO, visibility. It’s one of those things you can’t prepare for. Yes you can see it up ahead after it happens, but when your first in line there is nothing you can do.
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dodge guy wrote:

I think some of you have never driven in an area where these kinds of things happen. There is no preparing for it. A sandstorm or whiteout happens in seconds. Yes me minute it’s clear as a sunny day then seconds later zero, and I mean ZERO, visibility. It’s one of those things you can’t prepare for. Yes you can see it up ahead after it happens, but when your first in line there is nothing you can do.
I pray for all involved.


Over a lifetime I have many times when snow, rain, or dust has reduced the visibility to the point I could not see the end of my hood. But I was never involved in a accident under those conditions. If you hit a vehicle in front of you because you could not see it I question your right to ever drive again.
NEVER DRIVE IF YOU CAN'T STOP IN THE DISTANCE YOU CAN SEE! is one of the basic ideas of being in control of a vehicle.

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Driving too fast and following too close for the conditions. It's not the first in line that experiences these things it's the 19 following him. The first in line didn't hit anyone but the 19 cars and trucks following him did.
JRscooby nailed it. You are responsible for your car or truck.

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JRscooby wrote:

dodge guy wrote:

I think some of you have never driven in an area where these kinds of things happen. There is no preparing for it. A sandstorm or whiteout happens in seconds. Yes me minute it’s clear as a sunny day then seconds later zero, and I mean ZERO, visibility. It’s one of those things you can’t prepare for. Yes you can see it up ahead after it happens, but when your first in line there is nothing you can do.
I pray for all involved.


Over a lifetime I have many times when snow, rain, or dust has reduced the visibility to the point I could not see the end of my hood. But I was never involved in a accident under those conditions. If you hit a vehicle in front of you because you could not see it I question your right to ever drive again.
NEVER DRIVE IF YOU CAN'T STOP IN THE DISTANCE YOU CAN SEE! is one of the basic ideas of being in control of a vehicle.


So, your driving along at say 50mph, then a sandstorm fueled by strong winds takes away your visibility so you can't see past your bumper, what do you do? If you hit the brakes, you cause a chain reaction accident on the freeway, if you don't hit the brakes you sail right through it or hit the car in front of you that hit the brakes... Which do you think happened here? No one knows for sure, but on a straight road you would probably drive right out of it is you didn't touch the brakes and just held your car straight. These things happen because someone freaked out and tried to stop and the people behind them didn't.

I almost got in a car accident because someone hit the brakes driving on wet roads, there was an unseen puddle and they hit the brakes in moderately heavy traffic, everyone else just held their course. Hitting the brakes causes the car to swerve vs holding your lane and riding through it.

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Often times it’s the semis who run over the cars in these situations. When they lose visibility it takes more time and space to slow but by then they already are on top of a car who has slammed the brakes. The semi wasn’t following too close before conditions changed and if the car’s brake lights were obscured the truck would not have known to slow early enough.

These situations are a no-win. If I’m the guy in front, I’m slowing some and heading for the shoulder/field next to the freeway before stopping. Stopping when those behind cannot see that you have is going to get you hit, regardless of whose fault you think it is.

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