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eagarant, so you know the numbers, both weights and capacities. You said you refuse to do more suspension work ( as I read your post) yet you’re asking how to haul a 3+ ton TC on a 1 ton dually.
I’m not following.
Hauling one of them on a (new or newer) class 3 dually is akin to hauling a 4000+ Lb camper on a 3/4 ton. It’s done all day long by many people. Question is can you accept driving a truck at or near its practical limits?

Another consideration is the pickup bed itself. TCs are tough on truck beds and the beds are made the same so the heavier you go, the more considerations or damage you may expect (vs a flatbed).

This appears to be a rhetorical question that you already have strong opinions about or against, so why the question?


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I can’t say I disagree much with the above, but the terms “3/4 ton, and 1 ton” (a relic of the 1940’s if even before) are fairly meaningless with today’s trucks… FWIW, it may be possible were one to judiciously order just the right configuration to end up with say a so called 1 ton truck capable of carrying a 3 ton camper and still be within the 14k# limit… Point is, the terms 3/4 and 1 ton are pretty much theoretical, thus short hand for a broad range of payloads - just saying,


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Grit dog wrote:

eagarant, so you know the numbers, both weights and capacities. You said you refuse to do more suspension work ( as I read your post) yet you’re asking how to haul a 3+ ton TC on a 1 ton dually.
I’m not following.
Hauling one of them on a (new or newer) class 3 dually is akin to hauling a 4000+ Lb camper on a 3/4 ton. It’s done all day long by many people. Question is can you accept driving a truck at or near its practical limits?

Another consideration is the pickup bed itself. TCs are tough on truck beds and the beds are made the same so the heavier you go, the more considerations or damage you may expect (vs a flatbed).

This appears to be a rhetorical question that you already have strong opinions about or against, so why the question?


I'm against doing nickel and dime suspension add on's, I don't believe adding a sumo spring, air bags or Torklift stable loads are the proper or safe way to increase a trucks capability.

I currently drive my TC at it's practical limit, 600 lbs over my GVWR.

I've never experienced any TC I've owned damage any truck bed so I don't follow, it they are mounted correctly the truck bed should be fine.

My question was and still is....is anyone actually carrying a EC 1200 triple on a F350 dually.


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Deaver isn’t cheap, they were about 1/2 of the kelderman. I went with air, it’ll put that 1200 at unladen height.

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3 tons wrote:

I can’t say I disagree much with the above, but the terms “3/4 ton, and 1 ton” (a relic of the 1940’s if even before) are fairly meaningless with today’s trucks… FWIW, it may be possible were one to judiciously order just the right configuration to end up with say a so called 1 ton truck capable of carrying a 3 ton camper and still be within the 14k# limit… Point is, the terms 3/4 and 1 ton are pretty much theoretical, thus short hand for a broad range of payloads - just saying,


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Everyone understands that, or should, easily, if they have a truck. Wasn't the point of my post.

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egarant wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

eagarant, so you know the numbers, both weights and capacities. You said you refuse to do more suspension work ( as I read your post) yet you’re asking how to haul a 3+ ton TC on a 1 ton dually.
I’m not following.
Hauling one of them on a (new or newer) class 3 dually is akin to hauling a 4000+ Lb camper on a 3/4 ton. It’s done all day long by many people. Question is can you accept driving a truck at or near its practical limits?

Another consideration is the pickup bed itself. TCs are tough on truck beds and the beds are made the same so the heavier you go, the more considerations or damage you may expect (vs a flatbed).

This appears to be a rhetorical question that you already have strong opinions about or against, so why the question?


I'm against doing nickel and dime suspension add on's, I don't believe adding a sumo spring, air bags or Torklift stable loads are the proper or safe way to increase a trucks capability.

I currently drive my TC at it's practical limit, 600 lbs over my GVWR.

I've never experienced any TC I've owned damage any truck bed so I don't follow, it they are mounted correctly the truck bed should be fine.

My question was and still is....is anyone actually carrying a EC 1200 triple on a F350 dually.


Agreed, that was your question, but it’s a leading question based on your first post, something like “no way in hades can a 1 ton dually haul a 1200 and I refuse to do any upgrades except Deavers.”
So to your point, I suppose this thread is merely out of curiosity and not any sort of consideration of actually hauling a 1200 with your truck.
(Which I would agree with, based on your weights with a 950, you are hauling ALOT more “stuff” than average. To be at 14,600 lbs with a gasser cc dually, you have over 6klbs worth of camper and “stuff”. Like close to 2000lbs of “stuff” beyond the wet weight of your 950. )
A 1200 with your stuff in it would be well over 7klbs.

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toddb wrote:

Deaver isn’t cheap, they were about 1/2 of the kelderman. I went with air, it’ll put that 1200 at unladen height.


In my experience Deaver has always been a deal. They fabricated two 3 leaf overload spring packs, installed while I waited for $375.

So what Kelderman system did you install?

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They quoted me over 2k for a new spring pack. I put a 4 link in rear only, rides like 250 unloaded and lifts back to ride height loaded. I can dump either side and drop 4”, handy for the holding tank dumps. It’s very nice on sweeping turns as it’ll inflate/deflate either side and keeps the truck level when it wants to lean over. The truck is a 15 f350 drw, camper is af 992 and I pull an enclosed trailer.

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Grit dog wrote:

3 tons wrote:

I can’t say I disagree much with the above, but the terms “3/4 ton, and 1 ton” (a relic of the 1940’s if even before) are fairly meaningless with today’s trucks… FWIW, it may be possible were one to judiciously order just the right configuration to end up with say a so called 1 ton truck capable of carrying a 3 ton camper and still be within the 14k# limit… Point is, the terms 3/4 and 1 ton are pretty much theoretical, thus short hand for a broad range of payloads - just saying,


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Everyone understands that, or should, easily, if they have a truck. Wasn't the point of my post.


Interesting response…But begs the question, who is “Everyone”??

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Grit dog wrote:

3 tons wrote:

I can’t say I disagree much with the above, but the terms “3/4 ton, and 1 ton” (a relic of the 1940’s if even before) are fairly meaningless with today’s trucks… FWIW, it may be possible were one to judiciously order just the right configuration to end up with say a so called 1 ton truck capable of carrying a 3 ton camper and still be within the 14k# limit… Point is, the terms 3/4 and 1 ton are pretty much theoretical, thus short hand for a broad range of payloads - just saying,


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Everyone understands that, or should, easily, if they have a truck. Wasn't the point of my post.


Interesting response…But begs the question, who is “Everyone”??


Thought I covered that "if they have a truck."

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