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Posted: 08/17/21 12:20am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

2020, I think, Wife got a photo speeding ticket from New Jersey.
We hadn't been through NJ since 2017, maybe, doing Mayflower Ancestor research.
The plate in the photo was black on white Disabled Vet plate from Tn.
Called Dispatch and asked them to run it.
First my wife is not a Disabled Vet. I am, 100%.
The plate belonged to an Individual in Clarksville, Tn, that belonged on a gold Cadillac. The car it was on was a Nissan.
Started to just ignore it but wife called the number in New Jersey and they wanted a photo of our car with my plate on it.
My plate has an American flag etc, the newer Disabled Vet plate.
The individual attached to the plate in their photo was a man. We do not know him and never met him.
My wife does not have Disabled Veteran Plate, in her name and is not a Disabled Veteran.
The plates are all in my name and not one of them resembles the plate in the NJ photo.
How in the world did they attach a photo of some stranger's Disabled Veteran plate, as being registered in her name, as a Disabled Veteran, in New Jersey when we were in Az no less?.
Our LEO and us couldn't come up with any idea!
I think about this from time to time,as I'm analytical and can't let something go unsolved.
Any ideas?

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Well there are some things I do no wish to see in a public post
First the plate on the speeder's car
Second the plates on YOUR cars
Third, the photo.

But in a private message .....

All day long a board clerk/typist (may be called something else) sits at a computer terminal (Been there sort of) and types in the plates he/she sees in the photos and then the computer spits out a ticket. But it is a HUMAN that reads and types in the plate.

My guess... Typo


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Posted: 08/17/21 06:53am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I've heard of folks getting a bill from a state using photo id to charge people for using their turnpike system....that had never been to that state. Reason was people like to use some type of tag cover which can cover the states name. The one I remember was a white F150 with certain tag numbers....which those numbers were used in three states. Lots of white F150 on the road.


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Posted: 08/17/21 05:21pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Reminds me of back in the mid or late 70's when I received a notice from the NYC traffic division that I owed them $63, $13 for an illegal parking fine and a $50 surcharge for non-payment and fees. The license plate number listed was the special commercial plate on my backhoe/loader that had never been more than a mile or so from our upstate NY home since it was delivered. A phone call to the NYC traffic folks did get it straightened out fairly quickly though, and the excuse they offered was the previously mentioned mistyped entry. It did have me scratching my head though, until I had the official written explanation and correction in hand.


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I remember a few years ago when a guy was trying to get a personilised plate for his vehicle. He wrote his requested plate in, but in the '2nd choice' area he wrote 'NO PLATE', as if he couldn't get want he wanted, he didn't want any plate.
Sure enough, in a few weeks a packaged arrived with the 'No Plate ' plate , but in the meantime he had received dozens of parking tickets, as vehicles illegally parked with no plates, were written up as such, but somehow they now all found their way on to his file!
can't quite remember how it ended up, but I think that he wanted to keep the plate and wanted the DMV to change their billing system!


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If I learn that an intersection has one of those “red light” cameras, i plan future trips in that location taking different routes, even if it’s a longer distance just so I can avoid that intersection. Fortunately, many cities are getting rid of theses “traps”, which were just devious ways to fine you unjustly. I’m dismayed to learn my location, Amarillo, still uses these cameras, whereas several other TX cities have stopped doing so.


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mr. ed wrote:

If I learn that an intersection has one of those “red light” cameras, i plan future trips in that location taking different routes, even if it’s a longer distance just so I can avoid that intersection. Fortunately, many cities are getting rid of theses “traps”, which were just devious ways to fine you unjustly. I’m dismayed to learn my location, Amarillo, still uses these cameras, whereas several other TX cities have stopped doing so.


Curious why folks think they are "traps". If you aren't doing what you aren't supposed to be doing it's a moot point. If someone robs your store at night and a camera is enough to catch and prosecute them, that's a good thing. If you break a traffic law and a camera catches you, somehow it's a trap and an infringement on your rights?


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way2roll wrote:

mr. ed wrote:

If I learn that an intersection has one of those “red light” cameras, i plan future trips in that location taking different routes, even if it’s a longer distance just so I can avoid that intersection. Fortunately, many cities are getting rid of theses “traps”, which were just devious ways to fine you unjustly. I’m dismayed to learn my location, Amarillo, still uses these cameras, whereas several other TX cities have stopped doing so.


Curious why folks think they are "traps". If you aren't doing what you aren't supposed to be doing it's a moot point. If someone robs your store at night and a camera is enough to catch and prosecute them, that's a good thing. If you break a traffic law and a camera catches you, somehow it's a trap and an infringement on your rights?
Many people think they're traps because they are. Don't forget that the people who make the most money from those cameras are the companies that build and install them. There have been reports that the duration of the yellow light was shortened after installation of red light cameras. And they do nothing to prevent accidents, they just slap the hand of the offender after the fact. Pure revenue generation.


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Posted: 08/19/21 09:53am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Are stop sign cameras on school busses also traps?
They also result in fines for not stopping.

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fj12ryder wrote:

way2roll wrote:

mr. ed wrote:

If I learn that an intersection has one of those “red light” cameras, i plan future trips in that location taking different routes, even if it’s a longer distance just so I can avoid that intersection. Fortunately, many cities are getting rid of theses “traps”, which were just devious ways to fine you unjustly. I’m dismayed to learn my location, Amarillo, still uses these cameras, whereas several other TX cities have stopped doing so.


Curious why folks think they are "traps". If you aren't doing what you aren't supposed to be doing it's a moot point. If someone robs your store at night and a camera is enough to catch and prosecute them, that's a good thing. If you break a traffic law and a camera catches you, somehow it's a trap and an infringement on your rights?
Many people think they're traps because they are. Don't forget that the people who make the most money from those cameras are the companies that build and install them. There have been reports that the duration of the yellow light was shortened after installation of red light cameras. And they do nothing to prevent accidents, they just slap the hand of the offender after the fact. Pure revenue generation.



Red light cameras change driver's willingness to run red lights. And real cops hand out plenty of tickets at intersections w short duration yellows as well. Some have been known to trigger light changes w sensors built in the street to intentionally trap victims. But RLC don't involve risk on the part of the cops nor the driver, nor does it count against insurance and the insurance companies make the most when cops hand out tickets for moving violations.

Unjust enforcement of laws is a huge problem, but RLC and the like are little reminders to obey traffic laws w/out the risk and expense of cops handing out tickets.

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