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Posted: 08/25/21 02:46pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hi all,

It’s been a bit since I’ve posted on these forums. I’m not honestly sure if my signature is updated accordingly. If not I’ll make those changes.

Getting to it, last November I came in possession of a 2007 Attitude. The model is 36ckss. It’s about a 39 foot long triple axle fifth wheel with a 12 foot garage (and I’ve measured…it’s a true, exact 144 inches. There’s a sticker on the inside that says it’s got a 4,xxx-something lb payload rating. I believe with no toys I’m traveling at around 13,000 with empty tanks. Payload is 17,000.

Now, have been thinking of getting a side by side for the family. But as much as I wanted one recently, I’ve ALWAYS wanted a jeep. Just makes more sense for the money and our lifestyle. And you can drive it on the street legally. Seems like a better fit for what we do.

I learned this morning that I may be able to get my geandfather’s 4 cylinder yj wrangler. I know that doesn’t sound impressive, but you haven’t seen this thing wheel. It’s unstoppable! Ive also learned that a yj wrangler weighs about 2900lbs. Ive also learned that a yj wrangler is 153 inches long with the spare tire, stock!

So, if I take the spare off, what are the chances that that gets me to my 144 inches? I’m also fine with pulling a bumper if I have to.

Hoping that someone on here has a keep yj and can give me some insight on what they think and what the exact measurements would be. I have hope that this could work, but with the fifth wheel not being easy to get in or out to check physically, and the keep currently at the hunting property, I can’t verify any of this myself now.

Lastly, what about the ramp? What are the chances that a keep is too heavy for it?

Cross posted to Facebook. But also want to hear from people here.

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Posted: 08/25/21 03:41pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Also, forgot to mention I think that listed curb weight is around 2900lbs

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You need to find the weight limits for the garage itself (many are 2000#) and the ramp weight limits too. Plus the overall height of the Jeep, this is an issue often with drop down beds.

I found a generic manual (here) that shows the ramp was rated for 3,000# (don't assume it's accurate)

I think Eclipse is still in business so I'd call them with the model of your RV and see if they can get you the specs. (951) 684-6868


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Thanks for the answers so far. I plan on weighing the jeep when I can. Was hoping for the next couple days maybe someone had a yj sitting in their garage. Power of thousands of people on a forum.

I’ve also tried to contact eclipse in the past and not had luck with either getting ahold of anyone or not hearing back. I’ve called before too and the person on the phone was unwilling to get me the information, or transfer me to someone who may know because of the age of my trailer.

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Dang, sorry they have not been responsive. I figured Covid had been hard on them, but makes me wonder how operational they are now.

One of our members N-Trouble I think still has his 2015 Attitude 28SAG since its in his signature. He's not been very active so you might send him a Private Message and see if he gets back to you.

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I would be worried your ramp will not be capable of supporting the Jeep as you load it. Our ramp is rated at 1500 lbs

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Ramp won't support the weight of a Jeep. Toy hauler won't support that much weight either.

Imagine what loading nearly 4000lbs of weight in the rear will do to the handling (and reduction in pin weight) of the combo while towing.


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If it’s got a hard walled garage, you’re likely out of luck length wise. And 3klbs is pushing it.
To be fair, I’ve thought of loading up our CJ5 and see how it works though, so good luck.
Agree, watch the ramp. Mine is pretty light weight.


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My sandrail is 3000lbs and I have no issues in my Weekend Warrior.
With my wheel base, I only have 1 set of axles on the ramp at a time.

I used to haul my rail and 2 quads at the same time, no issue with weight.

If you end up with a 5th wheel, handling won't be affected by the weight.
I don't have any issues even in side winds of 20-30mph.


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Thanks again for the answers.

I’ve kind of given up on being able to reach attitude.

I really don’t see the jeep weighing more than 3100 lbs max. I mean it’s basic. But I could see how that would be a lot of weight for the trailer all in one spot…although theoretically rated for it.

It’s actually a fifth wheel. I already have owned it since November. I measured the jeep tonight, and it’s possible to get it down to 144 inches. Though it might require more unbolting than I’d want to deal with to get it in there. Enter the 18volt makita impact I guess (maybe).

I’m not sure I trust the ramp either. I could always bring along some support for loading and unloading.

Think I’ve for sure got some more research to do on all of this. I can honestly say that there’s only one trip per year where I’d like to have the trailer and the jeep at the same time, so I’m sure we can figure other works arounds.

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