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ognend wrote:

ksss wrote:

I bought a 2020 Crew Cab 3500 cab and chassis, LTZ last year. I didn't order it that way, it was an order that was turned down when it arrived and I bought it. I don't know if it was how mine was ordered, but I had a heck of a time getting the back up camera to work. Took the dealer a while to figure it out. The components that make the back up camera work are not there in a cab and Chassis and more importantly the software is not in the computer either. Make sure you work through that now before you order it. Maybe they fixed the issue for the 2021 models but it was a pain to make it happen. You will thank me. I love the truck though.


I took possession of the truck a few months back and I love it. Backup camera works flawlessly [emoticon]


I am glad yours worked. Mine does now but it wasn't without some pain.


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rosewood1 wrote:

i have a 2007 f350. it has a different frame as well as several more leafs in the spring pack. with 5000 lbs pinweight it does not touch the helper spring except over bumps. terrible ride but i am in the process of modifications that hopefully will help. crazy about the flatbed.


Yeah, I like mine. Taking possession of a brand new Palomino HS-2902 Max at the end of September and taking horses camping out West during winter. Here is a shot of mine.


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2021 Chevrolet 3500 DRW Cab&Chassis crew cab 4x4 6.6L gas with 9ft4" flatbed
2021 Palomino HS-2902 Max truck camper
2007 Double D all steel 2-horse bumper pull trailer

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You're expecting this to be way too simple. Even very similar pick-ups will have different payloads due to having more or less options on the truck. Your C&C has a longer frame, possible a heavier frame, dual fuel tanks, a larger rear axle (I think, maybe not on a gasser), and they used to have a rear anti-sway bar that the pick-ups didn't get.
There are certain options that are absolutely not available on a C&C truck like satellite radio for instance. Your truck probably didn't come with a spare tire or a winch to hold it but a dually comes with both.
So, bottom line is, there are a lot of differences and you can't just assume anything.

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A basic wt with cruise control, just lost 3lbs of payload vs brochure base eight. Factory brake controller may add another 3-5 lbs to base wieght, or a loss of 3-5 lbs of payload. Did you get ANY options at ALL. They may be the approx 100 lbs you are not finding. 4 power windows are 100 lbs. 26-35 lbs per door!
If I may, most trucks I've bought, have been within 20-40 lbs one way or the other from how speced, what they should wieght. Most scales read in 20 lb increments. You'll be off a fraction due to scale round up or down.
Look in glove box, or door frame and see if a camper load or max payload sticker exists. That's a better factory wieght number to work with vs brochure. I've only had ONE truck of a dozen thru the years close to that figure. It was a 2000 c2500 with 2 chargeable options. Auto trans, trim rings, and not chargeable, cloth seats. It wieghed maybe 60 lbs more than base config.

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As I was out walking my pupster. i'm recalling that many of the 8 lug SW/DW rigs do not come std with a spare tire in the past. Did you order a spare, thats 60-80 lbs right there!!
Did you get one of the very basic option packages with AC, upgrade radio etc? thats potentially another 40-60 lbs of added weight, lost payload to your truck brochure payload!
Did you put after market spray on undercoating on your truck? Line-x on the steel bed? extended camper mirrors?
If the backup camera is an option.....that's 5-10 lbs of lost payload!
I'm sure that 100 lbs of missing payload are option(s) you are not including in your numbers.

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As I was out walking my pupster. i'm recalling that many of the 8 lug SW/DW rigs do not come std with a spare tire in the past. Did you order a spare, thats 60-80 lbs right there!!
Did you get one of the very basic option packages with AC, upgrade radio etc? thats potentially another 40-60 lbs of added weight, lost payload to your truck brochure payload!
Did you put after market spray on undercoating on your truck? Line-x on the steel bed? extended camper mirrors?
If the backup camera is an option.....that's 5-10 lbs of lost payload!
I'm sure that 100 lbs of missing payload are option(s) you are not including in your numbers.

Marty


Marty, thanks. Yes, power windows, backup camera, that's about it. No spare tire. I guess I am happy to be within a 100 lbs, huh? [emoticon]

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If you have 4 power windows, theres your 100 lbs right there! 20-25 lbs per window for the four mechanisms.

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If you have 4 power windows, theres your 100 lbs right there! 20-25 lbs per window for the four mechanisms.

Marty


Haha yep, thank you Marty, how we take stuff like power windows for granted. I even proudly tell people I have a bare bones W/T truck that I paid cash for but I forget that power windows is not really bare bones [emoticon]

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Forget the 14k!!! Go by what your rear axle weighs ready to tow subtracted from your RAWR. That's basically your payload. Buy proper tonnage to cover your 6 tires, now you are good to go.


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Forget the 14k!!! Go by what your rear axle weighs ready to tow subtracted from your RAWR. That's basically your payload. Buy proper tonnage to cover your 6 tires, now you are good to go.


What do you mean by "buy proper tonnage to cover your 6 tires"? Thanks!

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