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Cummins12V98

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Posted: 08/27/21 09:07pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have my DRW licensed SD. No specific tonnage as they told me I am licensed for whatever I can legally carry.


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

I have my DRW licensed SD. No specific tonnage as they told me I am licensed for whatever I can legally carry.


That's more wieght than you can legally stop!
Truck wirghs about 8000 lbs. Legally you can out 20k on rear axle, front around 12k. So 32k gvw legally. Assuming registered as such.
Now big question is, can you stop from 20 mph to 0 in iirc 25' or less. If not, you are red tagged for brake failure. Truck can not move under its own power. It will have to towed or carried to brake repair place. Or fixed on the side of the road.
Brake ticket is a moving violation. Over wieght is a non moving violation. One goes against driving record, gets turned into I durance company, other is a no problem, just like most parking tickets.

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

I have my DRW licensed SD. No specific tonnage as they told me I am licensed for whatever I can legally carry.


That's more wieght than you can legally stop!
Truck wirghs about 8000 lbs. Legally you can out 20k on rear axle, front around 12k. So 32k gvw legally. Assuming registered as such.
Now big question is, can you stop from 20 mph to 0 in iirc 25' or less. If not, you are red tagged for brake failure. Truck can not move under its own power. It will have to towed or carried to brake repair place. Or fixed on the side of the road.
Brake ticket is a moving violation. Over wieght is a non moving violation. One goes against driving record, gets turned into I durance company, other is a no problem, just like most parking tickets.

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Bottom line is my 15k setting on my 6 tires is covered, in reality closer to 16k.

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Correct Ron.
OP can probably run down the road based on what he says his registered wight is at 16-18000 too. At least here, that would be the case. Even 25000 for that matter. Not that any one with a typical 35 series dually should be at 25000gvw. Wieght won't be issue. Some law rule etc will get them off the road. It will be a painfully $$$$$ lesson.

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I never saw an answer as to what the OP has. If he got a pick up with no bed, it is rated far less then a chassis& cab unit.GM 3500 chassis & Cab


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enblethen wrote:

I never saw an answer as to what the OP has. If he got a pick up with no bed, it is rated far less then a chassis& cab unit.GM 3500 chassis & Cab


I am the OP - I have a crew cab 4x4 cab/chassis Chevy 6.6L gas truck.

p.s. The Chevy equivalent page to the GMC lists available payload as 5,751–7,040 lbs (https://www.chevrolet.com/commercial/silverado-3500hd-chassis-cab)

* This post was edited 08/28/21 02:20pm by ognend *


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blt2ski wrote:

Correct Ron.
OP can probably run down the road based on what he says his registered wight is at 16-18000 too. At least here, that would be the case. Even 25000 for that matter. Not that any one with a typical 35 series dually should be at 25000gvw. Wieght won't be issue. Some law rule etc will get them off the road. It will be a painfully $$$$$ lesson.

Marty


Marty, I am not sure what you mean by your remark on "Some law rule etc will get them off the road. It will be a painfully $$$$$ lesson". I plan on running a Palomino HS-2902 Max truck camper (3261 lbs dry weight, probably 4200 lbs wet) and towing a 2-horse bumper pull trailer at the same time (loaded about 6500lbs). I was told in Virginia you have to register for max GCW you intend, so went with a large number (25000lbs).

Before I went with the current truck camper/bumper pull setup, I had some plans on buying a horse trailer with living quarters - these usually come in at 13-14,000 lbs - plus loaded weight of truck (9000lbs) - I would have come in at 22-23,000lbs max (hence I registered for 25,000).

Either way I am not over GVWR, not over GCWR, not over RAWR and not over my registered weight... - how would I learn a "painful $$$$$ lesson"? Thanks!

* This post was edited 08/28/21 02:38pm by ognend *

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enblethen wrote:

I never saw an answer as to what the OP has. If he got a pick up with no bed, it is rated far less then a chassis& cab unit.GM 3500 chassis & Cab


You mean other than the very first sentence of the first post where he says he has a C&C truck? Lol


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My F3 fitty cab and chassis has straight, flat frame rails 34” wide as per SAE standard, same as class 5-8 commercial trucks.

It had a Max GVWR door sticker “with such & such tires”.

As mentioned a “second stage body builder” or “upfitter” engineer can change the weight ratings within component guidelines.

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ogned,

ASSUMING you are under all of your warranty weight ratings, you will not have any issues I am referring too! "ON THE OTHER HAND" if you pushed those warranty weight ratings to the true max legal ratings, you would have the painful $$$ issues I am referring too to Ron, ie cummins12v.

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