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Posted: 08/30/21 09:03am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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I was told in Virginia you have to register for max GCW you intend, so went with a large number (25000lbs).

Your state as other members have reported their state use a GCW number for registration purposes. Thats the number you can't exceed while pulling a trailer in your state. And of course you can't exceed your vehicles axle/tire load ratings which is generic in all states.

Now what weights does your state use for a overloaded vehicle. You get all types of opinions on a rv website so what I do and recommend is drop by your local state troop post and ask their size and weights enforcement officers that question.

While some other states as you see have some type of tonnage/gvw or that type of weight to use for registration purposes. Seems like folks from these states think all states are the same ....when their not.

Or like I said above my state as other members have stated have no weights for registration purposes (non commercial vehicle).


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Posted: 09/05/21 12:24am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ognend wrote:

Do Cab&Chassis trucks weigh more than standard DRW trucks (all other things equal)?

I bought a 2021 3500 Chevy DRW cab/chassis gasser, crew cab, 4x4. The stated payload on Chevy's website for an "equivalent" gasser (3500 DRW, crew cab, 4x4) is 6610 lbs, stated GVWR is 14,000lbs.

Since my vehicle is "incomplete", can I assume the same payload (6610 lbs) plus whatever the weight of the "deleted" bed would be on the equivalent 8ft pickup, minus whatever flatbed I installed?

In practical terms, I have a Hillsboro GII steel bed that weighs 1230lbs. If I assume that the 8ft DRW bed weighs 500lbs, can I do 6610lbs + 500 lbs - 1230 lbs = payload of 5880lbs on my cab/chassis equivalent?

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So back to OP's question - I'm almost certain the pickup with bed deleted will be lighter than a CC, assuming same engine, options, wheelbase, etc.

A boxed frame is stronger than a C-channel pound for pound. Their shape is also easier to optimize to squeeze out more weight to strength ratios. With a c-channel, you have to be straight and uniform in cross-section for up-fitting.

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Posted: 09/05/21 08:52am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

RoyJ wrote:

ognend wrote:

Do Cab&Chassis trucks weigh more than standard DRW trucks (all other things equal)?

I bought a 2021 3500 Chevy DRW cab/chassis gasser, crew cab, 4x4. The stated payload on Chevy's website for an "equivalent" gasser (3500 DRW, crew cab, 4x4) is 6610 lbs, stated GVWR is 14,000lbs.

Since my vehicle is "incomplete", can I assume the same payload (6610 lbs) plus whatever the weight of the "deleted" bed would be on the equivalent 8ft pickup, minus whatever flatbed I installed?

In practical terms, I have a Hillsboro GII steel bed that weighs 1230lbs. If I assume that the 8ft DRW bed weighs 500lbs, can I do 6610lbs + 500 lbs - 1230 lbs = payload of 5880lbs on my cab/chassis equivalent?

Thanks!


So back to OP's question - I'm almost certain the pickup with bed deleted will be lighter than a CC, assuming same engine, options, wheelbase, etc.

A boxed frame is stronger than a C-channel pound for pound. Their shape is also easier to optimize to squeeze out more weight to strength ratios. With a c-channel, you have to be straight and uniform in cross-section for up-fitting.


Thank you. This is my impression as I cannot explain the difference in weights/payloads.


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Posted: 09/05/21 09:43am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Difference in frame design is why it would be good to know if the vehicle is a pickup with box delete ot is a true cab and chassis.


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Posted: 09/07/21 09:07am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

But 5 pages later, does it actually matter?
OP has the truck, the flatbed and the camper. Either it is a good setup, or not so much. All minutia at this point.


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