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Funny, a friend just sent me this yesterday. I believe that’s a Scamp 5th wheel on top of that commercial truck. Looks like you’d need about a 6’ stepladder to get in the thing [emoticon]

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That’s the general idea.

But, that’s a little different than my idea. It’ll have a pass though and it’s on a much lower truck frame. also, I need to buy new. I’m not looking for old stuff.

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You would need an older truck to pull an old style low profile 5th wheel. New trucks are too tall at the bed rails.

Here are a few to look at. Not what you want but a few examples of mid profile fifth wheels.

https://trekkn.co/small-5th-wheel-trailers/


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You would need an older truck to pull an old style low profile 5th wheel. New trucks are too tall at the bed rails.

Here are a few to look at. Not what you want but a few examples of mid profile fifth wheels.

https://trekkn.co/small-5th-wheel-trailers/


Yes, definitely trying to get these things to all match up

The bed rails are 36” from the ground on the commercial truck I’m using.

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Our first 5th wheel rv trailer was like that with a truck camper style bed above the pin. It was a 26' 1984 Aljo Aries RB (rear bath).
Double towed a 18' 3500 lb bass boat with it.
Check out Allen Campers (Allen Oklahoma). allen campersThey show pictures of 5th wheel trailers with just the bed like a truck camper.

I bought my first 8' over head truck camper from them in '72. No issues with it...till a '75 tornado took it.


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I did a quick search and couldn't find any low profile 5th wheels. The shortest I could find was the Winnebago 2405BH. With an overall height of 11.5ft, 13.5 ft is typically the max legal height. That gives you 2ft plus the height of the suspension...so if your truck puts it less than 3.5ft off the ground, it should be viable.

PS: We've had both fiberglass and aluminum siding. Unless you spend a lot of time in hail areas, I prefer aluminum. The market has moved to fiberglass mostly because it looks pretty. There's certainly nothing dangerous about it.
- My Dad's 40yr old aluminum sided trailer was in perfectly good condition when it was sold. We had a 1997 that is in the same park we are in right now...siding is perfectly fine.
- Go wander an RV park and it's rare to find a 5yr or older fiberglass unit that doesn't has at least a small area of delamination.


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The overall height isn’t really the main concern. I’m finding plenty of different types of things that will fit on the truck.

The concern is how an over cab would work with the truck cab. That’s what missing here in terms of of finding a 5th wheel to fit and most likely is what will determine overall height.

It’s the height above the cutout of the forward area I need to minimize most of all.



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I did a quick search and couldn't find any low profile 5th wheels. The shortest I could find was the Winnebago 2405BH. With an overall height of 11.5ft, 13.5 ft is typically the max legal height. That gives you 2ft plus the height of the suspension...so if your truck puts it less than 3.5ft off the ground, it should be viable.

PS: We've had both fiberglass and aluminum siding. Unless you spend a lot of time in hail areas, I prefer aluminum. The market has moved to fiberglass mostly because it looks pretty. There's certainly nothing dangerous about it.
- My Dad's 40yr old aluminum sided trailer was in perfectly good condition when it was sold. We had a 1997 that is in the same park we are in right now...siding is perfectly fine.
- Go wander an RV park and it's rare to find a 5yr or older fiberglass unit that doesn't has at least a small area of delamination.


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The overall height isn’t really the main concern. I’m finding plenty of different types of things that will fit on the truck.

The concern is how an over cab would work with the truck cab. That’s what missing here in terms of of finding a 5th wheel to fit and most likely is what will determine overall height.

It’s the height above the cutout of the forward area I need to minimize most of all.



valhalla360 wrote:

I did a quick search and couldn't find any low profile 5th wheels. The shortest I could find was the Winnebago 2405BH. With an overall height of 11.5ft, 13.5 ft is typically the max legal height. That gives you 2ft plus the height of the suspension...so if your truck puts it less than 3.5ft off the ground, it should be viable.

PS: We've had both fiberglass and aluminum siding. Unless you spend a lot of time in hail areas, I prefer aluminum. The market has moved to fiberglass mostly because it looks pretty. There's certainly nothing dangerous about it.
- My Dad's 40yr old aluminum sided trailer was in perfectly good condition when it was sold. We had a 1997 that is in the same park we are in right now...siding is perfectly fine.
- Go wander an RV park and it's rare to find a 5yr or older fiberglass unit that doesn't has at least a small area of delamination.


Bet you will also have issues with the height of cab above the frame not fitting under the overhang. Another idea would be start with the bed off a U-haul, that has cab overhang. Add doors, windows and appliances, and BANG! you got your super C.

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How about something like a horse trailer - check Featherlite, Sundowner, or I think the ATC line of trailers have a lower front for the fifthwheel or gooseneck.

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Yes. That’s exactly what I’m trying to get across. It’s the way the thing fits underneath the bed. How the cab is under the bed. That’s the difficult spot. That’s why I’m looking for a narrow section up there on a fifth wheel.


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AdvancedQs wrote:

The overall height isn’t really the main concern. I’m finding plenty of different types of things that will fit on the truck.

The concern is how an over cab would work with the truck cab. That’s what missing here in terms of of finding a 5th wheel to fit and most likely is what will determine overall height.

It’s the height above the cutout of the forward area I need to minimize most of all.



valhalla360 wrote:

I did a quick search and couldn't find any low profile 5th wheels. The shortest I could find was the Winnebago 2405BH. With an overall height of 11.5ft, 13.5 ft is typically the max legal height. That gives you 2ft plus the height of the suspension...so if your truck puts it less than 3.5ft off the ground, it should be viable.

PS: We've had both fiberglass and aluminum siding. Unless you spend a lot of time in hail areas, I prefer aluminum. The market has moved to fiberglass mostly because it looks pretty. There's certainly nothing dangerous about it.
- My Dad's 40yr old aluminum sided trailer was in perfectly good condition when it was sold. We had a 1997 that is in the same park we are in right now...siding is perfectly fine.
- Go wander an RV park and it's rare to find a 5yr or older fiberglass unit that doesn't has at least a small area of delamination.


Bet you will also have issues with the height of cab above the frame not fitting under the overhang. Another idea would be start with the bed off a U-haul, that has cab overhang. Add doors, windows and appliances, and BANG! you got your super C.


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Thermoguy wrote:

How about something like a horse trailer - check Featherlite, Sundowner, or I think the ATC line of trailers have a lower front for the fifthwheel or gooseneck.


Yeah. I keep seeing those. Unfortunately, I have spent too much time building things. I can’t build this. I don’t have it in me.

I guess I’ll keep looking around, but I don’t think they make what I need. Basically I want an oversize truck camper.

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