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Posted: 09/03/21 10:23am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Then their are "the ones" that fly past everyone and get to the end of the open lane and expect someone to let them in. I won't.


And there is the problem [emoticon]

It is called "cooperation", by not letting folks merge in even if they flew past you makes you no better than the one you just blocked from merging.

If everyone yields and takes their turn without being territorial things will go smoother and faster.

We are all in the same sand box, don't be the "one" that dirties the sand box for everyone..

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Posted: 09/03/21 11:10am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

This is the exact situation as indicted below with synopsis overlaid on a GE snip:

Two lanes of travel from the north is metered by virtue of other signal lights (not shown on this diagram.)
At high volume times ,predominantly morning and noon, traffic IF in a single lane WILL back up through and into the intersection shown.
When driver's observe the "Use Both Lanes" directive, then two lanes will stack with vehicles and will not block the intersection.

The traffic signal shown will stop oncoming traffic to allow the double stack to proceed though the construction zone.

If one AW decides to interrupt the two-lane stacking/ zippering, then the resultant single lane will back up through the intersection.

As member Valhalla mentioned, Traffic Engineers have this figured out as long as folks observe the directives!


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Posted: 09/03/21 11:22am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It's the "all about me" people. They need to be first all the time.

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Posted: 09/03/21 11:31am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

No. It's not about "They need to be first all the time."

The situation as described is about stacking two lanes to avoid backups into the intersection.

The issue is B-hurt drivers who feel the need to interrupt (block) traffic flow because other operators pass them to fill up both lanes so as to NOT block an intersection.

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Posted: 09/03/21 11:48am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

How about a compromise? Take the open lane but don’t fly past everyone else. Either pace alongside the moving other lane or if it’s stopped like the the photo above, slowly make your way toward the front.

In theory this should help to fill up that empty lane behind you rather than it just being a few of you like-minded people “passing” everyone over there.

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Posted: 09/03/21 12:08pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Most signs I see say xxxx lane closed/merge now with merge now arrow signs every 200 feet which courteous drivers will do so traffic moves along. Its the jerks who ignore the lane closed/merge now and run the closed lane to hogg in stopping the normal flow.
I like what the OTR drivers do and drive beside another OTR rig shutting down discourteous drivers who like to ignore merge now signs and hogg in.


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Rick Jay wrote:

d3500ram wrote:

...yet there are still AW's who...

AW's or AH's? [emoticon] We talkin' "holes" or "wipes"? LOL

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JIMNLIN wrote:

Most signs I see say xxxx lane closed/merge now with merge now arrow signs every 200 feet which courteous drivers will do so traffic moves along. Its the jerks who ignore the lane closed/merge now and run the closed lane to hogg in stopping the normal flow.
I like what the OTR drivers do and drive beside another OTR rig shutting down discourteous drivers who like to ignore merge now signs and hogg in.


Would think one with as much "road sense" as you wouldn't say this, but then again...
2 differnt scenarios. Open road, yeah don't be the guy who runs the merge lane to the end and then has to cut someone off to get in.
IE "normal flow of traffic" as you put it.

If traffic is bumper to bumper, the 100% most efficient way is for both lanes to fill, maximizing the capacity of the roadway and then a 1 for 1 zipper merge.

So, traffic moving, merge early to keep up flow. Traffic creeping, merge 1 for 1 at the end.

* This post was edited 09/04/21 09:42am by an administrator/moderator *

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Posted: 09/03/21 01:28pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Then their are "EH" holes that fly past everyone and get to the end of the open lane and expect someone to let them in. I won't.


So you're 100% part of the problem...
Again, like Jimlin, I'd expect someone like you to understand this simple concept.

Although it does get subjective as in when is it right to merge early with lower traffic volumes and higher speeds and when is it right to fill up both lanes and zipper?

I did see a funny a couple days ago. Some Karen was hell bent to get in front of this semi. She was merging. I watched semi let 1 car in and then another because that guy didn't know how to zipper either.
3rd car he said F U and just kept on the tail of the 2nd one he let in. Dumb biatch didn't have enough sense to know when to admit defeat and literally pushed a couple barrels with her car.

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Posted: 09/03/21 03:08pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It doesn't really matter what the signs say if eveyone would follow the same courtesies:

A. if you are in the closing lane, move over as space allows and don't stop traffic trying to move over where there isn't space, or driving beyond the end of the lane putting workers in danger

AND

B. If you are in the open lane, let a vehicle move in front of you for every 100 yards of merging notice.

Don't get mad because the other person isn't "doing as you" - just suck it up and be courteous.


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