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When people have opportunities to move over and they don’t and speed past to the end THAT is the problem. When I pulled in like most have and are in the thru lane we are bumper to bumper near the end. Why should I hit my brakes to let someone in that clearly does not think they should wait like everyone else???
I've had people try to squeeze past me when we are right at the cones. Now I straddle the line between the lanes a good 100 yards before the pinch point.


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If people would get in line when it's easy and NOT wait til the end the traffic would flow faster but there are those that "CUT IN LINE" that feel they should not have to wait like everyone else.

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If it weren't for the last second cutter-inners there probably wouldn't be a problem in the first place.


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A roadway is not a queue. There is no "cutting in line".

Do you all get mad because someone passes you on a hiking trail or sidewalk? The road is no different.

Again there is no donut for the first 50 people to pass the merge point.


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If the signs say to continue and then merge and the “merge here” sign with the arrow? Then that is what you do. Don’t get mad at other people for paying attention to the signs.

* This post was edited 09/04/21 02:18pm by dodge guy *


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toedtoes wrote:

A roadway is not a queue. There is no "cutting in line".

Do you all get mad because someone passes you on a hiking trail or sidewalk? The road is no different.

Again there is no donut for the first 50 people to pass the merge point.
Are you being held up by people cutting in front of you on a hiking trail or sidewalk? Not a very good comparison. Do you also let people get by you at the grocery store checkout? Or the movie theater queue? How about if you have three things, and they guy wanting around you has a whole basket full? I'm sure you'll let them through, that would be the courteous thing to do.

Except for the possibility of blocking streets behind the merge point, why does it matter where the "zipper" point it? Seems to me it could be at the merge sign and then everyone will be traveling at the same speed when arriving at the single lane. The issue is that the passing people have ignored the "Merge Here" thinking they will be in line further along, and bypass a lot of waiting in line. They get to the end of their lane, and try to merge then, but people have to slow down or stop because these people have bypassed the merge point and have to create their own merge point, thus slowing everything down.


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They should do away with the warning signs and let both lanes roll up together than zipper into one when they come to the cones/horses.

Good grief....lets see now traffic is moving along on multi lane highway at the legal speed limit 70 mph and suddenly one or two lanes ends into one !!!

I'll let other drives in front of me....only if they make a honest move to blend after the first few lane closure/move over arrows warning signs and are trying to get over.

Lane closures on a 70-75 mph interstate vs a 35 mph 4 lane city street with stop lights every 6-8 blocks may work differently.

Just the other day I saw a Oklahoma trooper sitting in the closed lane with his overheads on about 1/3 miles before the end on the lane that was being closed on the interstate near me. This spot is a 18 month project and lots on news about drivers using the closed lane to run to the end and hogg in resulting in altercations. LOL...everyone was playing nice with the trooper on that point.


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Since this is a RV site, I hope none of you merge at the last point with your RV.

Although I suspect there are a few who would.

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fj12ryder wrote:

toedtoes wrote:

A roadway is not a queue. There is no "cutting in line".

Do you all get mad because someone passes you on a hiking trail or sidewalk? The road is no different.

Again there is no donut for the first 50 people to pass the merge point.


Are you being held up by people cutting in front of you on a hiking trail or sidewalk? Not a very good comparison. Do you also let people get by you at the grocery store checkout? Or the movie theater queue? How about if you have three things, and they guy wanting around you has a whole basket full? I'm sure you'll let them through, that would be the courteous thing to do.

Except for the possibility of blocking streets behind the merge point, why does it matter where the "zipper" point it? Seems to me it could be at the merge sign and then everyone will be traveling at the same speed when arriving at the single lane. The issue is that the passing people have ignored the "Merge Here" thinking they will be in line further along, and bypass a lot of waiting in line. They get to the end of their lane, and try to merge then, but people have to slow down or stop because these people have bypassed the merge point and have to create their own merge point, thus slowing everything down.


A hiking trail or sidewalk is exactly the same thing - it is a limited amount of space to get from one point to another and those points may be different for each person. As long as you are moving forward, you will reach your end point regardless of how many people are on the trail or sidewalk.

With vehicles, the issue is that everyone tailgates so that others can't merge in. By blocking others from merging, whether "here" or "there", YOU are impeding the flow of traffic. When you won't let that other car merge at 10, 20, 45 mph, you force the next guy to have to stop to let the other car in. And that makes YOU the cause of the problem.

Again, roadways are not queues (lines). You don't "take your place in line" and never waver until you all reach the same endpoint for a common goal. Vehicles enter and exit at multiple different points, they merge between between lanes, the drive at varying speeds.

When you don't let a vehicle merge, you are going against the rules of the road. You are playing "god" and decreeing how everyone else behaves. For what? So you can pat yourself on the back and say "there, I showed him!" . Wow! That's sexy!

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fj12ryder wrote:

Are you being held up by people cutting in front of you on a hiking trail or sidewalk? Not a very good comparison. Do you also let people get by you at the grocery store checkout? Or the movie theater queue? How about if you have three things, and they guy wanting around you has a whole basket full? I'm sure you'll let them through, that would be the courteous thing to do.


I have never encountered a grocery store or movie theater queue where two lines combine into one when you reach the cash register...or halfway down the line. The merge two lines into one operation simply doesn't apply to (most) such queues.

If I'm waiting to get on a subway, with a bunch of people standing around on the platform, and then the train comes in and everybody has to line up near wherever the train doors end up at, then yes I'll let some people "cut" in front of me so that everybody can get on in an orderly and expeditious manner.





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