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Terryallan

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seems like the last few weeks have been really bad for 5ers here in NC. Why? My opinion.
Many have been sold that story about how 5ers tow so good that you don't even know there are there, and that is how they drive. Like it is not there, and they get themselves into situations they don't have to skills to get out of, or don't have the Tv to get them out of it. Also many don't appear to have a 5th wheel capable TV. As in. I'll just put airbags on it, and it will be fine. WRONG. Airbags do not increase it capacity of your TV.

Bottom line. Yes a 5er may or may not tow better than a tag along. But it is still a trailer hanging off the back of your truck, and it is still heavy, and it still moves the TV around some. Especially in the wind, and if your TV is not capable enough., and especially if you are tow really fast, and ignoring the trailer. You wouldn't believe the number of 5th wheels that pass me on the highway running 80, and 85 MPH. That folks is too fast. Even the big trucks don't run that fast as a rule.

So don't fall for the myth that "you won't even feel it" You will, and if you aren't being careful. It may feel you right off the road. Drive like you are towing a trailer, because you are. You can't change lanes as fast, you can't accelerate as fast, and you can't stop as fast. You can't do anything like you can with out a trailer behind you. Drive accordingly.

I'm tired of seeing campers scattered out all over the road. And yes. That goes for the tag alongs as well. But it just seems the 5ers are being driven with less caution than needed.


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Right you are.

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Preaching to the choir?


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Family owns a towing company. Its good for business. Most of those dealers will tell you you can tow a 35ft bumper pull with a Smart car just to sell it and yes there are those that believe anything they are told.

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We have been RVing since 1984 and full time the last 8 years. Every day, we see people pull in with too much trailer and not enough tow vehicle and/or a poorly set up rig. The dealers should be held responsible for letting people off the lot with some of these rigs.

Then you get the ones posting about the trailer they already bought and the little tow vehicle and all they are looking for is vindication from others that they can pull their 35 foot 5th wheel with a Ford Ranger, 4 cylinder.

Then you get the ones that fly by you at 80 mph with the trailer wagging away.

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And spend some safety money and get disk brakes. I don't care how you keep up and adjust the dog gone shoe brakes they are not anywhere near disk brakes for stopping a fifth wheel. When I changed out our shoes for disk it was a big wow moment.

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x2 on the disk brakes.....every now & then, I use the truck's manual trailer hand control (not truck's brake pedal) that activates the trailer's brakes....just using them will stop the truck....yes, they work so much better!


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Well I for one will say, yes I check the mirrors often to be sure the 5er is still back there!
We moved from a 2001 Ram 2500 CTD to a 2016 Ram 3500 DRW HO Aisin, the difference was amazing. The 2001 had a 3.55 rear and the 2016 3.73, NV4500 to Aisin.
The 2001 with small chip still worked to get going, the 2016 not nearly at all, our 5er is a bit over 13K. Depending on road and traffic tow between 65 and 70, 5er is riding on LT tires so that isn't an issue.
I am amazed when traveling at 70 that I will get passed, by both other larger 5er's and TT!


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Wife and I been RV'ing since 2000, tenting before that. After an HD truck/slide in camper, then a TT, we took a break on RV'ing. By then, I had a Chevy Colorado, the 1st gen w/ the 5 cylinder engine, extended cab (not 4 door), and a 5k tow rating. One day, we looked at a small single axle Starcraft TT. Perfect! UVW was like 3500lbs (I forget exactly). Bought it, dealer hooked us up, and off we went. Just because my 4 month old Colorado had a 5k rating, did not mean it could tow a box TT.

OMG -- our first trip, all 4 of us with a loaded TT, we could barely do 45mph, and mostly did 40. Engine screaming. Weight distribution bars working OT. The truck (not just the engine) could not handle it. We swayed with sway bars. It was uncomfortable. I worried the whole weekend about the drive back home.

I swallowed my pride, opened my wallet, and bought a bigger truck. WOW what a difference to have a 1500 series truck pulling a small single axle vs. that nimble, small, fun but NOT safe to tow a TT Colorado.

To this day, I see bad towing set ups, RV related or not, and try to stay away from them. Glad I was able to admit my failure and correct it, albiet at a loss (trading a 4 month old vehicle in on a new one -- you don't come out of that smelling like a rose)...but for the safety of myself, my family, and those on the road.

Yes, the dealer hooked that small colorado up and never indicated it was a bad idea.


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