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Posted: 09/15/21 05:17pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

2oldman wrote:

Tom/Barb wrote:

I wish I knew how to judge the quality of those batteries.
Price is usually a good indicator.


no its not, Will (youtuber who loves this stuff) got shafted on a set of batteries that were 30% more, and they were identical





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3 tons wrote:

rexlion wrote:

That would be one of the few things that is dropping in price these days.


I think it’s mostly due to the value of money going down…[emoticon]

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If the value of money is going down, the price of an item should be increasing!!!?


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dfm wrote:

3 tons wrote:

rexlion wrote:

That would be one of the few things that is dropping in price these days.


I think it’s mostly due to the value of money going down…[emoticon]

3 tons


If the value of money is going down, the price of an item should be increasing!!!?


Bingo!! Suggesting nowadays, the battery’s relatively low price is ‘the exception’ (competition? market flooding? increased efficiency? over supply?)… In general Econ 101 terms, it’s not so much that the cost of goods and services keeps going UP, it’s that the value of our currency keeps going DOWN (Ugg!) due to the ongoing dilution of a nation’s monetary supply - this process can equate to a stealth form of taxation, thus the rational for (at least a lucky few [emoticon] ) COLA adjustments…

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the reason they are getting cheeper is more manufactures are moving to prismatic cells which are way faster and less labour to build as your putting 4 cells togeather as aposed to 100 cells. also shipping has been consistantly getting cheeper over the last two years, and third, battle born is extramly overpriced as they were the only name in the game for a while now there trying to make people think because they are expensive they are better but even they have been dropping there prices laitly.

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In another forum I mentioned earlier this year I’d built 600AH of Lithium batteries for $1200 plus 15 hours of my time making them price competitive to AGMs but 2-3X the life…$2/AH.

Searched AliExpress and found 8-280AH cells for $358…560AH of batteries for probably $500…90 cents/AH. Today I searched again and found 8-310AH cells for $346. Add $84 for 2 BMS (200A is big enough) and $50 in cables… 620AH for $580…91 cents making them as cheap as lead/acid but probably 5X the life.


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Ivylog wrote:

Searched AliExpress and found 8-280AH cells for $358…560AH of batteries for probably $500…90 cents/AH. Today I searched again and found 8-310AH cells for $346. Add $84 for 2 BMS (200A is big enough) and $50 in cables… 620AH for $580…91 cents making them as cheap as lead/acid but probably 5X the life.
Probably fraud at that price. You will never receive them.

Even the 310 is a deception. The real spec on EVE and CATL is 302 or 304 but often test initially at 310 but it is not the rating.

AliExpress is a swap meet inside a dumpster fire. Easy to get burned on buying junk.

If you are not paying close to $100 per cell for these 280-310 they probably have issues.


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Tom/Barb wrote:

I wish I knew how to judge the quality of those batteries.

Check DYI solar Will Prowse chanel,hes testing all kinds of stuff.

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jonaz wrote:

Im investing in crypto :-)


You should watch this advice then

https://youtu.be/HaJpYjO136o

Imo crypto will get banned by the Fed eventualy,
bc its basicaly like counterfit money used to avoid payin taxes.
Btw
China did ban BTC and other crypto already,
do they know something we dont?

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bgum wrote:

Just to be fair England is experiencing the highest inflation rate in the last 10 years. Canada inflation rate is rampant. Neither country has had an election in the last few years.
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Where do you get such skewed info from?

In 2020, the average inflation rate in Canada was approximately 0.72 percent compared to the previous years./quote Google

Btw Canada Liberal gov sent me 100$ out of the blue just before election,not sure why,probably a bribe LOL

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