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Posted: 10/07/21 06:21pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

silversand wrote:

....I see three (3) flights from YHU to Plattsburgh (PBG) this morning...a Pilatus PC12 (9 passenger), a Beechcraft Super King Air 350 (11 passenger) and a Beechcraft King Air 100....things are ramping up with snowbirds fleeing south [emoticon]

Must be charters, I don't see commercial flights on kayak.com. Market is driven by snowbirds destined for the US. Car from Ontario to to Buffalo plus private helicopter on the same day costs $1,900. What I am looking for is similar options from Mexico - Tijuana or Mexicali.

* This post was edited 10/07/21 06:32pm by Almot *

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I do not go anywhere nrar Mexicali. We cross at Nogales. I cannot use that BC bid buy outfit. No way zm I going to drive my rig thtough the mountains. Need snow tires and chains or cables. We are going to wait for Oct. 21. If border is still closed will put the mh in storage. I will then wait a week or 2. If still closed will ship my truck to Minneapolis and I will fly and dribe to Kino. If the border opens before mid December will take our Wanderlodge to Q. But I will not stay the whole winter as wife and the cat do not want to fly. For the return to Canada I can get a flat deck tow truck to take the pu to Tucson and I will fly
Or I can leave my pu in my shop and fly home. No matter what it is darn complicated. I am still hoping for Oct. 21. If it opens I will make a batch of margaritas and drink away! You are welcome to join in!

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We REALLY hope something works so that ALL of you can come here for the winter, especially you Moisheh. You have suffered enough.

I'm sure that Playaboy can definitely work something our for anyone's return to the US. I have used him for things and have sent him work from others and everyone has been very pleased.

If he can't there is bound to be someone that can fill the bill.

With any luck whatsoever, the US border will reopen October 21, or sooner.

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silversand wrote:

Playaboy wrote:

It appears that there are more restrictions on the way.


Yeah. In some Canadian jurisdictions, there is already a mandatory vaccination passport needed to get on a plane, train, subway, bus and any and all public transportation (this, by last September, 30 days ago, in Quebec). Now, whether you like it or not, inter-Provincial air travel will be for the vaccinated only.


These restrictions are not in my country, USA, but yours. If the citizens of Canada choose to give up freedom and create a 2nd class of people, that is on you. If you want to lock down that is your choice. If you allow your government to become like you brothers and sisters government in Australia, that is none of my business.

I think the USA should not have any mandates and restrictions forced on the public. That is UN-AMERICAN. The restrictions destroyed more than they saved. Locals control their own lives in the USA not Washington. I don't want to see the USA be more like Canada (government wise)

Politics will keep the land border closed on the 21st. I hope I am wrong.

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Posted: 10/08/21 07:53am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Moisheh and Playaboy:

My bet is on the US land border opening from Canada into the US between appx ~October 25th and ~November 15th. This is just my humble opinion. I doubt that the US will restrict themselves to the 21st of each month. That 21st day doesn't have any more significance at this point.


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Almot wrote:

Must be charters, I don't see commercial flights on kayak.com


Almot: I've been tracking charters and commercial passenger flights "by operator" for 11 days now. I've just started filtering flights by individual operator with a focus on ESE, TIJ, MXL, and MMNG airports near the Mex / US frontier. So far, I see nothing from those airports flying into the US. But 'm only 3 days into the watch....

All the flights from the Montreal area into Plattsburgh are indeed charter only. And, pretty expensive ($500+ CAD per person).

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Posted: 10/08/21 08:21am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Almot. Forget kayak. Just do a Google. Example: flights from Xxxx to xxxx.

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Amlot:

.....I don't see many charters from Mexico into US airports close to the Mexican frontier (just one; see below). I've checked: CXL (CALEXICO INTL AIRPORT); IPL (IMPERIAL COUNTY AIRPORT); NJK (EL CENTRO NAF); BWC (BRAWLEY MUNI AIRPORT)...

...however, BROWN FLD municipal AIRPORT (SDM) located on the US side just north of Tijuana, has inbound passenger flights from: MZT (Mazatlan); Los Cabos International; Cabo San Lucas; and finally, and this is interesting, a *charter* from Tijuana TIJ to SDM municipal (just a 14 minute flight). On a twin turboprop Beechcraft King Air 90 today; the company owning the aircraft is: TVPX AIRCRAFT SOLUTIONS INC:

Takeoff:

TIJ
TIJUANA, MEXICO
FRIDAY 08-OCT-2021
17:10 PDT

Landing:

SDM
SAN DIEGO, CA
FRIDAY 08-OCT-2021
17:24 PDT

The tail number on this aircraft is: N94BA
All this aircraft's registration, ownership and details are here-->

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Almot. Exactly where are you coming from and where do you want to go? There may be some flights from either tourist areas: Maz, PV, Cancun, etc. or major cities: Hermosillo ( HMO). But I remember reading something about Mexican airlines losing FAA approval. Probably WhereoMex ( Aero mex). Don't you think that by spring you could just drive across?

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It is a shame that politicians do not realize how much Canada and the USA are intertwined. I do not remember the exact figures but something like 65% of Canada's population live within 65 miles of the US border. Citizens of both countries shop across the border. Some small communities in Minnesota are about 100 miles from a US Hospital. But they can go to a Canadian hospital only 20 miles away and Canada accepts their Insurance. The reverse is also true. Canada pays for their medical care in the USA. Canadian sports teams, both amateur and semi pro, often play in a USA league. High school teams often have tournaments with teams from both countries. Churches hold conferences with representation from both countries. Farmers often have land in both countries. We used to Drag Race in Fargo and the racers in North Dakota and Northern MN. came to Winnipeg when we had a nice NHRA facility. Then there are families where the spouses are from the other country. All of the above creates problems when the border is closed for this length of time. It is almost cruel. In addition many of these border towns cannot survive without the tourist revenue from the other country. Billions are being lost. Most of these businesses are just ma and pa outfits. Many are closed and will never reopen. Horrible siuation that could be fixed in a few minutes!

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