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toedtoes wrote:

Charlestonsouthern - it is the usual "funding will lapse if new appropriations bill isn't approved on time" shutdown.

Right now it sounds like Washington is trying to meet deadlines and prevent a shutdown, rather than using it as a threat or not caring. So that is a good sign.

I suspect that with Covid shutdowns having happened and future ones potentially possible, Washington will not want to use a federal shutdown as a political game.


Perhaps the fact that one party is in control of both houses and the Presidency may have an affect. It would be difficult to shift blame in that case.


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During the government shutdowns in 2018 and 2019, the parks remained open but with reduced staffing or curtailed services. Probably best to check the website for your destination park frequently prior to October 1st.

Whether the "tribes" in DC come to an agreement on a budget or cobble together a continuing resolution for a couple weeks or a month until a budget agreement is reached? Anybody's guess......

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agesilaus wrote:

toedtoes wrote:

Charlestonsouthern - it is the usual "funding will lapse if new appropriations bill isn't approved on time" shutdown.

Right now it sounds like Washington is trying to meet deadlines and prevent a shutdown, rather than using it as a threat or not caring. So that is a good sign.

I suspect that with Covid shutdowns having happened and future ones potentially possible, Washington will not want to use a federal shutdown as a political game.


Perhaps the fact that one party is in control of both houses and the Presidency may have an affect. It would be difficult to shift blame in that case.


That hasn't stopped it in the past. I think right now shutting things down for political reasons will be seen very negatively after the Covid shutdowns, regardless of the side doing it. Any political party keeping people from work or benefits in this climate will look really bad.


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You guys know that this is now football season. When we have home games up at Clemson, we use Corps of Engineers (COE) campgrounds for overnighting since the hotels are full and expensive. We also have fan tailgating going on. Reservations and meet and greet parties have already been confirmed. If there is a closure, it will not only ruin camping but will ruin college football season for a lot of fans.

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agesilaus wrote:

snip..... it is the usual "funding It would be difficult to shift blame in that case.


Your statement is just another one of McConnell's many double standards w no basis in reality. It's going to take 10 GOP senators to raise the debt ceiling - neither party can wash their hands of it should the .gov shutdown or default.

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The party in power has the votes via reconciliation to pass the temporary extension to Dec 3rd. They just do not want to do so and have their fingerprints all over the bill.. The Debt extension won't have to be done until Dec 3rd.

There are all sorts of political shenanigans and chicanery going on, not appropriate for this forum.

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Hey, we are all simple people and just want a great wooded site to go camping; anything else is like trying to change the weather. I have my fingers crossed.

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Hope for the best and prepare for the worst with contingency plans such as using open western BLM lands, state, county, city and private parks, etc. as I have done in the past. Past shutdowns and reductions did not last too long as I recall. There is usually a way. Politicians and extortion are one and the same. Cheers to the many and jeers to a few.

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BLM land is a great thought -- gotta do some quick homework to find an alternate if the shutdown takes place.


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History repeats

https://www.npca.org/articles/2029-how-i........rnment-shutdown-affecting-national-parks

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