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Posted: 09/28/21 11:15am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

toedtoes wrote:

But is one camper's habit of leaving their outdoor light(s) on all night the campground's environment? Or is it an individual camper's idiosyncrasy?
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imo it’s both

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toedtoes wrote:

But is one camper's habit of leaving their outdoor light(s) on all night the campground's environment? Or is it an individual camper's idiosyncrasy?

For me, I would say follow the lighting protocol of the campground. So, if the campground has no artificial lighting then leaving a porch light on all night would be a no-no. If there are lights outside the restrooms that are on all night, then a porch light would be reasonable. If there are "street lights", then additional lighting would be acceptable.

And the campground may have different sections that differ in what's acceptable. A campground I visit often is like that. When you drive in, there is a long stretch with full hookup sites and "street lights". Around a corner is a loop with just electric and water. This loop has no " street lights" but has an outdoor light at the restrooms. Another section is dry, but has the outdoor bathroom light. The loop I stay at is dry, no "street lights", and a vault toilet with no lights at all. Across the road are three group sites with varying degrees of lighting.

If someone came to " my" loop and left their porch light on all night, I'd take issue. But it'd be fine in the other sections.



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Why? What is so unreasonable with what I said?


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Posted: 09/28/21 02:23pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

toedtoes wrote:

For me, I would say follow the lighting protocol of the campground.


We stayed at a quirky little place in the middle of nowhere called Rusty's RV Ranch near Rodeo, NM that had a weird "lighting protocol". They literally prohibited any exterior lighting and required you to draw your blinds at night to contain any interior light sources. They catered to amateur astronomers and guaranteed no light pollution. They even loaned everyone in your group a red flashlight to help you find your way to the hot tub at night.

There was only one astronomer there, but he was pretty hardcore. He had a toy hauler with tens of thousands of dollars worth of gear in the garage of his hauler. Pretty impressive.

Rusty's was one of the coolest RV parks we ever saw. The spaces were massive and you were nowhere near your nearest neighbor. My only gripe was how remote the place was. We coasted into Rusty's on fumes and found out that the closest place to fill up was ten miles away at a place that wasn't even really a gas station. It was just a pump in the middle of a lot. No canopy, no c-store, no nothing. It just had a light post and a CCTV camera pointed at you. I've never been so glad to see a pump though.


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Posted: 09/28/21 02:24pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

mooky stinks wrote:

toedtoes wrote:

But is one camper's habit of leaving their outdoor light(s) on all night the campground's environment? Or is it an individual camper's idiosyncrasy?

For me, I would say follow the lighting protocol of the campground. So, if the campground has no artificial lighting then leaving a porch light on all night would be a no-no. If there are lights outside the restrooms that are on all night, then a porch light would be reasonable. If there are "street lights", then additional lighting would be acceptable.

And the campground may have different sections that differ in what's acceptable. A campground I visit often is like that. When you drive in, there is a long stretch with full hookup sites and "street lights". Around a corner is a loop with just electric and water. This loop has no " street lights" but has an outdoor light at the restrooms. Another section is dry, but has the outdoor bathroom light. The loop I stay at is dry, no "street lights", and a vault toilet with no lights at all. Across the road are three group sites with varying degrees of lighting.

If someone came to " my" loop and left their porch light on all night, I'd take issue. But it'd be fine in the other sections.



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Posted: 09/28/21 02:41pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

dedmiston wrote:

………I've never been so glad to see a pump though.


That’s why I always carry me a little extra. It’s saved my bacon more than once.

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Posted: 09/28/21 02:51pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

NRALIFR wrote:

dedmiston wrote:

………I've never been so glad to see a pump though.


That’s why I always carry me a little extra. It’s saved my bacon more than once.

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Yep. I keep two yellow jugs in the bed of my truck: an old nasty one for starting campfires and a clean(er) new(er) one for filling the truck. It's a booger to remember to cycle it through and keep the fuel fresh though.

Our toy hauler also has two fuel tanks and a pump. One tank is for the generator and the other is for the fuel station to refill the off-road car. Or in a pinch, I can pump from the aux tank to fill the gen tank. Those tanks don't do my pickup any good though, because the truck takes diesel.

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mdcamping wrote:

Had an similar issue with a neighbors light that was shining through our tent end when we were tuning in for the night. I politely asked them turn off the light as they were fine with it. problem solved.

I'll put up a string of lights, I just unplug when I turn in, notice most other folks do the same, no worries.

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I think this type of polite communication is key, but it is important to remember it is a 2 way street. My family (kids included) are night people. So if your "turn in" time is 9 or 10, I'm sorry but my light is staying on. 11 or 12 when we go in and they 100% go off. Everyone should be flexible, but also willing to communicate. Now if a neighbor leaves it on all night (we have all forgotten and done it), a quick reminder and I'm sure 99% will say no problem.



Quiet time in most RV parks I have been in is 10 pm. I would think that means sitting out talking ,lights on etc. I suppose if you guys are whispering sitting in the dark that works, but its doubtful you do . Most expect whatever is going on until quiet time, but after that its time to shut it down . We are talking about outside lights here, I'm sure whatever lights are on inside is not a problem.


Every campground we have been at "quite time" means that and nothing more. Doesn't mean "no lights" doesn't mean "must be inside" doesn't mean "campfire out" doesn't mean you and friends can't be outside playing cards, or conversing around the campfire. Just means being polite and conversing in a normal voice and no music.

And in 30+ years of camping we have NEVER EVER had a camp host, ranger, camp host, or another camper complain or express ANY issues about our "behavior" during quiet hours.


In the evenings we keep some outside lights on, and in campgrounds w/o electric or any lights near dark we turn on the outside porch light even if we are at another campsite. Helps find your way home if you forget a flashlight! On a moonless night it can get real dark. But once we retire inside, outside porch light is off for the night. And by "porch light" I'm referring to the single (in our case yellow) lamp by the door, not a string of LED lights under the awning or big white outdoor lights.

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Posted: 09/28/21 03:05pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ktmrfs wrote:

Every campground we have been at "quite time" means that and nothing more. Doesn't mean "no lights" doesn't mean "must be inside" doesn't mean "campfire out" doesn't mean you and friends can't be outside playing cards, or conversing around the campfire. Just means being polite and conversing in a normal voice and no music.


My understanding is "no generators and no loud voices".

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dedmiston wrote:

ktmrfs wrote:

Every campground we have been at "quite time" means that and nothing more. Doesn't mean "no lights" doesn't mean "must be inside" doesn't mean "campfire out" doesn't mean you and friends can't be outside playing cards, or conversing around the campfire. Just means being polite and conversing in a normal voice and no music.


My understanding is "no generators and no loud voices".


yup, exactly, forgot to mention the generator. It's quite time, not "Silent night"

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