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Buzzcut1
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In all the purchases I have made since my first vehicle in 1975 I have never purchased an extended warranty. I have never regretted not doing so. Its a scam IMHO. I will not be buying one in the future either
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toedtoes
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kenkorona wrote:OK, but I'll wait till Wednesdays Mail before I post anything. That is, unless a moderator jumps in and warns me it is not permitted.
Also, the reason I can't just drive over to the dealer is that I live 3000 miles from the dealer.
Maybe I'm too trusting, but I still feel this was not a scam, and I still feel it's most likely that I'll get the refund. This dealer is a very big business with multiple locations. I find it hard to believe they would risk their business committing an out-and-out scam.
A few more days will tell.
I figured it was likely you weren't nearby.
I don't rhink it's a scam - I just think they don't care enough to return your money promptly.
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Kayteg1
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Buzzcut1 wrote:In all the purchases I have made since my first vehicle in 1975 I have never purchased an extended warranty. I have never regretted not doing so. Its a scam IMHO. I will not be buying one in the future either
I am in the same boat, but I always research the vehicle before purchase.
That said, BIL of my close friend bought new Ford Taurus from 1990's.
He bought extended warranty and in 3 or 4 years he generated about $20,000 warranty repairs on $16,000 vehicle.
I think the $900 he spend on extended warranty got him his money worth.
Numbers from my memory, so I might be slightly off, but you get the idea?
Bad part - extended car warranty is not paying for wear out shoes and he had few of those.
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valhalla360
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toedtoes wrote:I don't rhink it's a scam - I just think they don't care enough to return your money promptly.
I'm betting they were hoping you eventually forgot about it and went away.
These plans are like 30-40% profit for the dealer. If they cancel it, they have to give back that 30-40% profit.
I expect the next response will be since it didn't get processed within 30 days, there is nothing they can do. (total BS but I give it about 80% chance as their next response)
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RetiredRealtorRick
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Buzzcut1 wrote:In all the purchases I have made since my first vehicle in 1975 I have never purchased an extended warranty. I have never regretted not doing so. Its a scam IMHO. I will not be buying one in the future either
First off, just for the record, most of these are not extended "warranties", as a warranty is issued by the manufacturer. They are "service contracts", which usually have nothing to do with the original manufacturer.
That being said, service contracts are purchased and serve the purchaser much like auto insurance or health insurance -- you hope you never have to use it, but if you do, you're glad it's there.
Being in the automobile business for 30 years, then in the Real Estate business for another 12 years, I have seen many, many of these service contracts pay out hundreds of thousand dollars to purchasers over the years, and I have had scores of auto buyers and home buyers share stories with me of how happy they were that they made such a purchase.
So is it a scam? No more than your auto insurance or health insurance is a scam.
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valhalla360
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RetiredRealtorRick wrote:Buzzcut1 wrote:In all the purchases I have made since my first vehicle in 1975 I have never purchased an extended warranty. I have never regretted not doing so. Its a scam IMHO. I will not be buying one in the future either
First off, just for the record, most of these are not extended "warranties", as a warranty is issued by the manufacturer. They are "service contracts", which usually have nothing to do with the original manufacturer.
That being said, service contracts are purchased and serve the purchaser much like auto insurance or health insurance -- you hope you never have to use it, but if you do, you're glad it's there.
Being in the automobile business for 30 years, then in the Real Estate business for another 12 years, I have seen many, many of these service contracts pay out hundreds of thousand dollars to purchasers over the years, and I have had scores of auto buyers and home buyers share stories with me of how happy they were that they made such a purchase.
So is it a scam? No more than your auto insurance or health insurance is a scam.
The difference is auto/health insurance is heavily regulated (and still problematic). These are profit making schemes that have very little to do with protecting the buyer.
You could as easily point to lottery winners and say the lottery is a great way to get rich...ignoring the horrible odds.
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RetiredRealtorRick
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valhalla360 wrote:RetiredRealtorRick wrote:Buzzcut1 wrote:In all the purchases I have made since my first vehicle in 1975 I have never purchased an extended warranty. I have never regretted not doing so. Its a scam IMHO. I will not be buying one in the future either
First off, just for the record, most of these are not extended "warranties", as a warranty is issued by the manufacturer. They are "service contracts", which usually have nothing to do with the original manufacturer.
That being said, service contracts are purchased and serve the purchaser much like auto insurance or health insurance -- you hope you never have to use it, but if you do, you're glad it's there.
Being in the automobile business for 30 years, then in the Real Estate business for another 12 years, I have seen many, many of these service contracts pay out hundreds of thousand dollars to purchasers over the years, and I have had scores of auto buyers and home buyers share stories with me of how happy they were that they made such a purchase.
So is it a scam? No more than your auto insurance or health insurance is a scam.
The difference is auto/health insurance is heavily regulated (and still problematic). These are profit making schemes that have very little to do with protecting the buyer.
You could as easily point to lottery winners and say the lottery is a great way to get rich...ignoring the horrible odds.
So you don't think auto & health insurance are profit-driven industries??? LMAO!
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Future scientists studying the Age of Petroleum Man will know about a subset of the population known as Face in a Screen All the Time Man.
They will have reasoned out the effects this had on the Human Attention Span before AI implants and how humans used to forget to do things, forget to process things, forget what they read about how bad some business was...
what am I blabbing on about again?
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RetiredRealtorRick wrote:Buzzcut1 wrote:In all the purchases I have made since my first vehicle in 1975 I have never purchased an extended warranty. I have never regretted not doing so. Its a scam IMHO. I will not be buying one in the future either
First off, just for the record, most of these are not extended "warranties", as a warranty is issued by the manufacturer. They are "service contracts", which usually have nothing to do with the original manufacturer.
That being said, service contracts are purchased and serve the purchaser much like auto insurance or health insurance -- you hope you never have to use it, but if you do, you're glad it's there.
Being in the automobile business for 30 years, then in the Real Estate business for another 12 years, I have seen many, many of these service contracts pay out hundreds of thousand dollars to purchasers over the years, and I have had scores of auto buyers and home buyers share stories with me of how happy they were that they made such a purchase.
So is it a scam? No more than your auto insurance or health insurance is a scam.
Spoken like a true salesman, Rick! Good job!
Although you probably lost some credibility with the common sense folks here. (Not that most salesman care about tangible credibility…)
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noteven wrote:Future scientists studying the Age of Petroleum Man will know about a subset of the population known as Face in a Screen All the Time Man.
They will have reasoned out the effects this had on the Human Attention Span before AI implants and how humans used to forget to do things, forget to process things, forget what they read about how bad some business was...
what am I blabbing on about again?
LOL....the state park we're currently in filled to the gills last evening with those face in a screen folks. New rigs which had to be the largest they could find or jump in debt over, sitting around a fire in a cloud of smoke because they do not know how to build one, with the entire family having their noses buried in phones for hours upon hours.
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