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livinthelife67

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Were buying our first rv. Was sold on a bumper pull but the fifth wheels have me questioning that decision. We've looked at several of both and found, both a nice reflection in the 150 series and a Keystone Cougar. We want to be able to take it into the mountains and not just park it on a slab.

Thoughts on each design ??!!

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livinthelife67 wrote:

Were buying our first rv. Was sold on a bumper pull but the fifth wheels have me questioning that decision. We've looked at several of both and found, both a nice reflection in the 150 series and a Keystone Cougar. We want to be able to take it into the mountains and not just park it on a slab.

Thoughts on each design ??!!


Are you saying you want to tow a 5th wheel with a 1/2 truck? If so, you need to post the specs of your 1/2 truck.
Bottom line is that very few 1/2 trucks can tow a 5th Wheel.


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Does “not just park it on a slab” mean you want to boondock in minimally developed camping areas, or in BLM type areas?

The GD 150 series GVWRs are 10-11,000 lbs and the Cougar are similar with a couple models going over 11,000. Toward the upper limits of most newer 150/1500 posted tow ratings but pin weights may be too much. Certainly within 250/2500s.

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Out of 150 brands of RVs, Keystone Cougar would be 149th because of the horrible lack of quality control.

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grand design vs. keystone. no contest, GD all the way.
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Grand Design. Haven't owned one but almost bought one recently. Fit and finish was exceptional. Owned a Keystone 5'er when we first got into RVing. Not the best quality. We loved how the fifth wheel towed. Very easy. Agree that a 1/2 ton truck might not be big enough.


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IIRC the grand design brochure has a section of 1/2 ton towables, don't remember if they were TTs or 5ers however.
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bikendan wrote:

livinthelife67 wrote:

Were buying our first rv. Was sold on a bumper pull but the fifth wheels have me questioning that decision. We've looked at several of both and found, both a nice reflection in the 150 series and a Keystone Cougar. We want to be able to take it into the mountains and not just park it on a slab.

Thoughts on each design ??!!


Are you saying you want to tow a 5th wheel with a 1/2 truck? If so, you need to post the specs of your 1/2 truck.
Bottom line is that very few 1/2 trucks can tow a 5th Wheel.


Post #1: Can you tell me about Courtland apples vs Honey Crisp apples?

Post #2: You need to post what kind of bag you have. You cannot carry those apples in just any bag.

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Four years ago we traded our Heartland on a Grand Design and never looked back. Earlier this summer we did a 42 night, 6,000 mile road trip in it.


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tommyznr wrote:

bikendan wrote:

livinthelife67 wrote:

Were buying our first rv. Was sold on a bumper pull but the fifth wheels have me questioning that decision. We've looked at several of both and found, both a nice reflection in the 150 series and a Keystone Cougar. We want to be able to take it into the mountains and not just park it on a slab.

Thoughts on each design ??!!


Are you saying you want to tow a 5th wheel with a 1/2 truck? If so, you need to post the specs of your 1/2 truck.
Bottom line is that very few 1/2 trucks can tow a 5th Wheel.


Post #1: Can you tell me about Courtland apples vs Honey Crisp apples?

Post #2: You need to post what kind of bag you have. You cannot carry those apples in just any bag.

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LOL.....You evidently have members of the weight police in every crowd.


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