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JaxDad

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Posted: 10/14/21 06:53am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Brandon the Traveler wrote:

pianotuna wrote:

9,700,690 active cases; 99,775 new cases; 1,819 deaths.



1819 deaths....of or with? The odds are better of hitting the lottery than dying.

9,700,690 active cases and 1819 deaths? 0.018752577319588% ? Your numbers.

Stay home, tape up all your windows and doors, wrap your head in cheesecloth, paint your walls with Lysol.


Glad it's open though. Now we can have our usual winter here of jammed up traffic, waiting in line at restaurants, and crowded state park campgrounds where everyone goes to bed at 5:30 PM.


The government tracks all deaths and publishes the data. None of the various causes dipped by much, and yet an additional 700,000 people died.

Unless you think the previous administration AND all of the Counties and States conspired to fudge the numbers…….

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JaxDad wrote:

Brandon the Traveler wrote:

pianotuna wrote:

9,700,690 active cases; 99,775 new cases; 1,819 deaths.



1819 deaths....of or with? The odds are better of hitting the lottery than dying.

9,700,690 active cases and 1819 deaths? 0.018752577319588% ? Your numbers.

Stay home, tape up all your windows and doors, wrap your head in cheesecloth, paint your walls with Lysol.


Glad it's open though. Now we can have our usual winter here of jammed up traffic, waiting in line at restaurants, and crowded state park campgrounds where everyone goes to bed at 5:30 PM.


The government tracks all deaths and publishes the data. None of the various causes dipped by much, and yet an additional 700,000 people died.

Unless you think the previous administration AND all of the Counties and States conspired to fudge the numbers…….


I know one person who died of Covid, a coworker. One death in a plant where we have over 900 people, hundreds of which had Covid and recovered. The guy who died weighed in excess of 350 lbs, smoked like a chimney and had COPD, along with Diabetes, yet his death was officially recorded as due to Covid 19.

Believing numbers published by governments is your choice, just like the numbers being published and reports being issued that we have very little inflation and it's all temporary lol. $80+ barrels of crude and $8.00 lb ground beef tend to make some who are not so gullible think otherwise.


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Posted: 10/14/21 08:33am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

pianotuna wrote:

I'm not sure I want to go south just yet.

As of yesterday:

84,154 new cases
1,480 new deaths

9,695,610 active cases.


Round up USA to 10,000,000 active / 350,000,000 population = 2857 active per 100,000 population.

Saskatchewan 73,057 active / 1,000,000 population = 7305 active per 100,000 population.

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Brandon the deaths were from covid in USA and were for the previous 24 hours. The numbers appear to still be rising.

And yes, I'm vaccinated. But low risk does not mean no risk.


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pianotuna wrote:

Brandon the deaths were from covid in USA and were for the previous 24 hours. The numbers appear to still be rising.

And yes, I'm vaccinated. But low risk does not mean no risk.



But...but...but the news tells me all numbers for the Delta variety have begun to drop like a stone.......infections, deaths, hospitalizations. Oh my now what.

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noteven

No need to round up.

9,700,690/ 333,490,143 = 2908

4423 / 1174000 = 3,767 Saskatchewan.

However, I live in Regina, so the (dropping) numbers are

597 / 179246 = 3330

My destination would be Seminole county Florid

461 / 479234 = 961

It looks good until factoring that I'd be driving through North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Missouri, Tennessee, and Georgia.

The vaccination rate for Florida is 58.5%, for Saskatchewan it is 72.5% (too low).

So far, I've not been exposed to covid directly. I plan to keep it that way.

If it had not been for the premier of Saskatchewan dropping all precautions on July 11, 2021, the numbers in Regina would be 37 cases or lower. Instead, we are teetering on having no open ICU beds, and the province has the worst numbers in Canada.

* This post was edited 10/14/21 11:16am by pianotuna *

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I recommend that all nervous, squirmy types not do anything even the least bit risky.

Ever. You should wait until the risk is 0.00%.

It’s just too risky to risk taking a risk.

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At the end of the day folks when it comes to risk, it is everywhere in our every day lives we just all chose to take what paths we do with what odds work in our favour we personally feel at the time.

I for one am pleased to see that the USA is opening up for Canadians to go down there. Absolutely being in our MH apart from Groceries and Gas Fills (both of which we do anyway being ultra careful here in Alberta personally ourselves and limiting other exposures), I feel we personally are safer than most both for ourselves and to others.

Where some heavier spread and exposure, could come into play is those that cross the border once or twice a week for a few hours to buy cheaper gas and other items being border towns, and there were a lot of Canadians pre-covid that did just that. Those in cars that are travelling for sure will be exposing to more services such as restaurants, hotes/motels where it's harder to be more careful on exposure.

Pianatuner I appreciate genuinely and see your thoughts and concerns but what is confusing me is that when I compared the charts a while ago: Canada at I believe 73%+ double vaccinated (the highest), UK in the 60's double vaccinated and USA 56.8%, you look at and compare the hospitalisation and icu number charts Canada's looks waaaaay worse over time, than those countries that have less double vaccinated.

You say Sask' is the worse in Canada yet Alberta has just gone through being the worst of the worst according to all news outlets, as they brought in Vax passports to all non-essential businesses and are bringing in QR Codes only from 15th November. A lot of this is not making sense to us here, especially learning that a figure of 26 Deaths in Alberta several days back (we are having double digit deaths daily!) 5 were double vaccinated. Yesterday 38 deaths with the youngest in his 30's having no underlying conditions.

So in a nutshell, there are tons of us that can't make rhyme or reason out of what we have been told from the get-go, an updated info by officialdom and what we are seeing in the reported numbers. For sure, everyone has to do what their comfort level is and has been said (ideally without derogatory comments!), go or don't go. It's your decision and your comfort level, but this is going to be with us for a very, very, very long time.

Even with being vaxed, personally we are still masking, very much social distancing, avoiding unnecessary public exposure as much as we possibly can, sanitising till our hands are almost raw after touching, handling anything immediately (shop carts, gas pumps, elevator buttons, door handles IDs etc). That is our comfort level right now, but there are sadly many many others that think the vax is the be all and end all to carry on without thought of what we've all been trained since Mar 2020 to ideally do.

I for one hope and wish that the US border remains open,(who knows how long it might last???) and am now planning come December or January when the initial frenzy dies down somewhat, to make a trip south to our cousins.

Here's to a great Fall and winter season wherever we may end up this year.

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noteven wrote:

pianotuna wrote:

I'm not sure I want to go south just yet.

As of yesterday:

84,154 new cases
1,480 new deaths

9,695,610 active cases.


Round up USA to 10,000,000 active / 350,000,000 population = 2857 active per 100,000 population.

Saskatchewan 73,057 active / 1,000,000 population = 7305 active per 100,000 population.


Do you practice any kind of gun safety?

Statistics say just 27,000 people a year are accidentally shot in the US, not much of a risk right?

330,000,000 people, 27,000 shootings, so less than 8.2 per 100,000 population per YEAR.

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I have to wonder what is wrong with people that they feel the need to argue about this, but then there are some people on both sides of the border seem to want to argue about everything (such as the completely ridiculous arguments concerning fresh water tank usage under General RVing). If they open the border and you want to come south, come south. If you aren't comfortable then don't. It's entirely up to each individual. I'm heading south from New England and I'm more wary of crime than I am of Covid.

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