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Just so you know there is no "Study"; All your link is someone referencing "Studies have shown" with nothing else but opinions based on zilch, nada, nothing. No study, no data, nothing by hypotheses.

Wow, really? Read the article, it mentions a study. If you can't verify these truths with your own eyes, I don't know how else to talk to you...


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Just so you know there is no "Study"; All your link is someone referencing "Studies have shown" with nothing else but opinions based on zilch, nada, nothing. No study, no data, nothing by hypotheses.


I agree the study should be cited. Sloppy journalism. That said, there is no study needed. It's common sense and we see the effects every day. It's about visibility. I don't need a study to recognize it's easier to see vehicles with their lights on during the day. Moreover, there is tons of verifiable data out there to support the effectiveness. Google is your friend.


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wing_zealot wrote:

Just so you know there is no "Study"; All your link is someone referencing "Studies have shown" with nothing else but opinions based on zilch, nada, nothing. No study, no data, nothing by hypotheses.


I agree the study should be cited. Sloppy journalism. That said, there is no study needed. It's common sense and we see the effects every day. It's about visibility. I don't need a study to recognize it's easier to see vehicles with their lights on during the day. Moreover, there is tons of verifiable data out there to support the effectiveness. Google is your friend.


No doubt you can see a light at longer distance. But if all cars have lights on, they will be no more noticed. And the car, half mile away, lights on or off is not the danger to you that the 1 100 yards away. And if it must have a light to be safe how do you walk from car to store?

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This thread has the same potential as the recent running your generator after hours thread that hit the final buzzer yesterday.
Keeper up boys!


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spoon059 wrote:

wing_zealot wrote:

Just so you know there is no "Study"; All your link is someone referencing "Studies have shown" with nothing else but opinions based on zilch, nada, nothing. No study, no data, nothing by hypotheses.

Wow, really? Read the article, it mentions a study. If you can't verify these truths with your own eyes, I don't know how else to talk to you...
Take a nap Spoon. Your getting really CRANKY in your old age! Ha


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spoon059 wrote:

Motorcycle training and emergency vehicle operations courses have taught me to not overdrive my vision. Being able to see twice as far away is an advantage to educated people.


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I have only read the last couple pages, but have noticed motorcycles referenced several times. MCs were required to have lights on all the time, when sold new, for many years.

I know this is about cars/trucks/etc, but riding a MC, you want to be very visible to stay safe. If you notice the cat eye headlights on my bike, I want to tell you, they are super visible, even in the daytime!

As Spoon mentioned, motorcycle training, which is defensive riding at it's peak, will make a better driver of you, no matter what you drive.

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MFL wrote:

As Spoon mentioned, motorcycle training, which is defensive riding at it's peak, will make a better driver of you, no matter what you drive.

Jerry

Easy Jerry, they are going to start calling you cranky and demanding studies!

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Bird Freak wrote:

spoon059 wrote:

wing_zealot wrote:

Just so you know there is no "Study"; All your link is someone referencing "Studies have shown" with nothing else but opinions based on zilch, nada, nothing. No study, no data, nothing by hypotheses.

Wow, really? Read the article, it mentions a study. If you can't verify these truths with your own eyes, I don't know how else to talk to you...
Take a nap Spoon. Your getting really CRANKY in your old age! Ha


Well, ole w_z is doing his best impersonation of a typical RV.net member who would argue that the sky isn’t blue. Can’t blame spoon fer that!

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Grit dog wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:

spoon059 wrote:

wing_zealot wrote:

Just so you know there is no "Study"; All your link is someone referencing "Studies have shown" with nothing else but opinions based on zilch, nada, nothing. No study, no data, nothing by hypotheses.

Wow, really? Read the article, it mentions a study. If you can't verify these truths with your own eyes, I don't know how else to talk to you...
Take a nap Spoon. Your getting really CRANKY in your old age! Ha


Well, ole w_z is doing his best impersonation of a typical RV.net member who would argue that the sky isn’t blue. Can’t blame spoon fer that!
Sorry that my little two sentence post went over your head G D. Next time I won't use compound sentences.

* This post was edited 10/22/21 11:08am by wing_zealot *

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