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Brandon the Traveler

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Posted: 10/18/21 02:17am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Grit dog wrote:

Brandon the Traveler wrote:

I wouldn't buy anything with that truck and Trailer other than a drawbar and ball. Drop it on the ball and go. I bet you would be hard pressed to find a contractor anywhere, hauling equipment on a trailer with the same model truck, that weighs a lot more using a WDH. He'll be using a pintle.


Let’s go Brandon!! Lol

I agree, with the exception being if it’s an ill-performing trailer.
However you’ll find that me, you and like 2.5 other people on this forum believe what you just said, and the rest think that a wdh with sway control is an absolute necessity in virtually every scenario.


I'd like to know how you adjust a WDH to begin with when you have a lighter trailer, and a heavy truck? Every one I have ever messed with has you measure the rise on the front end and adjust it back down to X with x being close to original ride height or within a small range near it. How do you do that when you get no rise when the trailer is dropped on? Go out and buy some wheel scales or take a guess at it?


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Posted: 10/18/21 05:40am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Grit dog wrote:

Brandon the Traveler wrote:

I wouldn't buy anything with that truck and Trailer other than a drawbar and ball. Drop it on the ball and go. I bet you would be hard pressed to find a contractor anywhere, hauling equipment on a trailer with the same model truck, that weighs a lot more using a WDH. He'll be using a pintle.


Let’s go Brandon!! Lol

I agree, with the exception being if it’s an ill-performing trailer.
However you’ll find that me, you and like 2.5 other people on this forum believe what you just said, and the rest think that a wdh with sway control is an absolute necessity in virtually every scenario.


It's funny that this thread just came up. I am in the same boat having a 3500 Ram and 26 foot TT. I just told my wife yesterday, as we were towing home, that I feel that the ride is smoother when using the Andersen WD hitch than without. Yesterday I was not using WD and the truck had a slight tendency to porpoise or jerk a bit over bumps.

I don't need the weight distribution feature very much if all all, so I tightened up the Andersen just enough to get the chains tight and a slight compression of the urethane bushings.

I don't "need" WD and I don't use it all the time, but when I use it, I think the ride is smoother.

-Drew


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Posted: 10/18/21 07:54am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Drew A. wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

Brandon the Traveler wrote:

I wouldn't buy anything with that truck and Trailer other than a drawbar and ball. Drop it on the ball and go. I bet you would be hard pressed to find a contractor anywhere, hauling equipment on a trailer with the same model truck, that weighs a lot more using a WDH. He'll be using a pintle.


Let’s go Brandon!! Lol

I agree, with the exception being if it’s an ill-performing trailer.
However you’ll find that me, you and like 2.5 other people on this forum believe what you just said, and the rest think that a wdh with sway control is an absolute necessity in virtually every scenario.


It's funny that this thread just came up. I am in the same boat having a 3500 Ram and 26 foot TT. I just told my wife yesterday, as we were towing home, that I feel that the ride is smoother when using the Andersen WD hitch than without. Yesterday I was not using WD and the truck had a slight tendency to porpoise or jerk a bit over bumps.

I don't need the weight distribution feature very much if all all, so I tightened up the Andersen just enough to get the chains tight and a slight compression of the urethane bushings.

I don't "need" WD and I don't use it all the time, but when I use it, I think the ride is smoother.

-Drew


Without WD, "porpoise" feel would be normal, if you have ever driven a pickup truck with a heavy load or TC in the bed they do indeed "porpoise". So in reality it is completely normal as long as it is under control and you are not overloading front or rear axles of the TV..

Some folks cannot stand the porpoise feel and some can, I fall into the I can and doesn't bother me as long as the TV suspension keeps the movements in check and under control.

Some folks seem to think a bit of porpoising means you are going to loose control, not really, if it did, then there is something seriously bad with the TVs suspension (like failed shocks). Pickup trucks are designed to haul heavy loads in the bed, if they can't handle a trailer with a tongue weight at or less than the max weight allowed in the bed, you have a serious problem.

In the case of the OP and myself, having a truck with a heavier and stiffer suspension gives us the option to use or not use WD.

OPs truck since it is a diesel with a trailer of no more than 7K lbs GVWR isn't going to need much, if any weight restoration to the front axle which is the primary reason why WD exists.

If the porpoising feel is objectionable, then by all means use one.

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I am a firm believer that every trailer combination needs some kind of sway control. WD continues to be a debatable issue in my HO. The trailer follows behind the TV and is connected by a single pivot point, the ball. A large trailer in windy conditions can sway on its own. Yeah, yeah, I know all the arguments. A well constructed trailer that is well balanced and loaded correctly won't sway, some will say. Even if this is true, how many out there have such trailers?
I would suggest the OP should get one of those add on friction bars as a minimum. I also believe that all half and 3/4 tons would benefit from a hitch that combines both WD and sway control.


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See statements like “Dont use it all the time, but do sometimes and THINK it’s better”
And all of nothing statements like “Firm believer ALL trailers need sway control.” is why or where folks get wrapped around the spokes with this.
GDE just put it well.
And similarly there are certainly many setups that need one or both, and many that don’t. And it’s ok to express your preference for “perfecting” your ride unless you pretend that it’s a necessity (in situations where it isn’t).
The fact remains though, many wdh and sway setups are purchased purely through salesmanship by RV salesmen and the internet. And many others are purchased out of fear of the unknown by those who don’t know better.

But many of those same people can’t see past defending their purchase or personal preference by refuting anyone who suggests otherwise.


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Posted: 10/18/21 10:13am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

aftermath wrote:

I am a firm believer that every trailer combination needs some kind of sway control. WD continues to be a debatable issue in my HO. The trailer follows behind the TV and is connected by a single pivot point, the ball. A large trailer in windy conditions can sway on its own. Yeah, yeah, I know all the arguments. A well constructed trailer that is well balanced and loaded correctly won't sway, some will say. Even if this is true, how many out there have such trailers?
I would suggest the OP should get one of those add on friction bars as a minimum. I also believe that all half and 3/4 tons would benefit from a hitch that combines both WD and sway control.


I have one of those trailers.

has 15% hitch weight.

Have demonstrated twice over the yrs I have owned it that is rock steady. Two times with two different 3/4 ton trucks I have had to make emergency maneuvers to avoid colliding head on with deer running across the road in front of me. Both times stomped on the brakes and both times the trailer never wavered and stayed 100% inline with my truck. Both times was on a busy Interstate at 70 MPH, now where to go and hitting a deer at that speed with trailer in tow would have been bad.

Not saying it will work for everyone, but I am a believer in having a firmer suspension on a heavier built truck platform along with maximizing the hitch weight cures a lot of ills that WD and anti sway devices bandaids over..

WD was originally designed to allow folks to tow much heavier trailers by attempting to push some weight forward onto the vehicles front axles. In doing so, it lifts the rear of the sagging vehicle with weak suspension. Lifting the rear, now removes some of your traction from the rear axle which can lead to other bigger problems.

Combo anti sawy/WD were devised to help marginal setups to be more stable.. The reality is you need to start with a stable setup first before ever applying these bandaids.

What do you think will happen when the WD/anti sway device fails or is overwhelmed in a bad situation?

I shudder to think what would have happened if I was in the same two events with a vehicle that didn't have a stout suspension but had WD and anti sway, those devices would have been easily overwhelmed.. Not sure I would have lived to see the second event as I don't believe a friction device or WD with anti sway could have saved my bacon on a poorly loaded trailer.

Something else to consider, very few "professional" contractors ever use WD or anti sway with their flatbed trailers or their cargo trailers.. But yet all of the trailer towing accidents I have seen over the yrs in my travels have been RV'rs..

Professional contractors tend to use TVs that are more substantial for the job at hand.

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wanderingbob wrote:

I also have a 2500 Ram CTD , for me the WDH is unnecessary . Try it without ! Spend the money on whiskey , cigarettes
and wild woman !


To quote John Lee Hooker, “If it wasn’t for whiskey & women, I’d have money today”.


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aftermath wrote:

I am a firm believer that every trailer combination needs some kind of sway control. WD continues to be a debatable issue in my HO. The trailer follows behind the TV and is connected by a single pivot point, the ball. A large trailer in windy conditions can sway on its own. Yeah, yeah, I know all the arguments. A well constructed trailer that is well balanced and loaded correctly won't sway, some will say. Even if this is true, how many out there have such trailers?
I would suggest the OP should get one of those add on friction bars as a minimum. I also believe that all half and 3/4 tons would benefit from a hitch that combines both WD and sway control.


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I have a Reese HP and an Equalizer 4-point in the shed. I use this for our rig.

https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hitch-Ball-Mount/Curt/C45456.html


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