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Posted: 11/03/21 08:11am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If you are planning trips into/thru the mountains, go diesel.

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Go with a diesel. Don't worry about the extra upfront cost. It will come back to you when you sell it. As for extra maintenance, yes you have to buy more oil but either way you are changing the oil at a certain interval in both gas or diesel.
And the DEF cost.... one gallon of DEF for every 50 gallons of diesel or about 16 cents per gallon of diesel burnt.
The pure enjoyment of pulling with a truck that is not screaming to go up a hill/mountain is worth every penny.


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As has been mentioned, the 8 speed tranny is supposedly a game changer. The new 6.4 and 8 speed combo's are rated up into the 16k range on tow cap.
A diesel may beat you in a drag race up a steep mountain, but how often do you race them up mountains?
And I don't know what kinds of punitive measures governments will take against diesels, but you can bet they are cooking some up.
2008 and the Def fluids are not the end of their moves to get diesels off the roads.

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BurbMan wrote:

My 2015 Ram 6.7 Cummins diesel crew cab long box SRW has a net payload of 4300. To get to the 6k you need a dually.

Truck weighs about 8000 lbs empty with a GVWR of 12,300.

It's a moot point now, that truck will be sold by tomorrow anyway.... [emoticon]


Diesel engine weighs ~900 pounds more than Hemi, so not unrealistic that this truck could be approaching 6,000#.

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wowens79 wrote:

If the 3500 is a 19, it goes to the 8spd, and everyone is raving about how much better the Hemis pull with the 8spd.
Look at the new Ford 7.3 gas with the 10spd. It is the king of the gassers.

Mine and the new one are both 18 - 6 speed.
I convinced myself that I should move to the diesel. But, the available vehicle has me thinking about gas again.

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Since you have no towing issues, it sounds to me that you just want a new truck. Go get it! Celebrate spreading your wings!


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Well, ****. Upon looking at the new vehicle again to check gear ratio, I have found out that the picture is a stock picture and the available truck is in fact a dually.
Still think I need to lean toward the diesel.
Currently, live in flatlands, Houston, but no telling where we will end up as we spread our wings. The mountain towing (uphill and downhill) will be a difference maker.
Thanks to everyone for the input.

BTW - I didn't use profanity. Censored word is cr*p. LOL

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humblerb wrote:

BurbMan wrote:

My 2015 Ram 6.7 Cummins diesel crew cab long box SRW has a net payload of 4300. To get to the 6k you need a dually.

Truck weighs about 8000 lbs empty with a GVWR of 12,300.

It's a moot point now, that truck will be sold by tomorrow anyway.... [emoticon]


Diesel engine weighs ~900 pounds more than Hemi, so not unrealistic that this truck could be approaching 6,000#.


Facts are important!

Cummins 6.7 Crate engine wet weighs 1,070# and a 354 Hemi weighs 720# so the difference is 350# no where a 900# difference.


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Well cr@p, if still 6-speed gas, may as well keep current truck! A 6-speed diesel would be fine. A DRW gas, could carry a heavy payload in bed, but no real advantage over SRW for towing a heavy RV, except maybe lower geared.

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

humblerb wrote:

BurbMan wrote:

My 2015 Ram 6.7 Cummins diesel crew cab long box SRW has a net payload of 4300. To get to the 6k you need a dually.

Truck weighs about 8000 lbs empty with a GVWR of 12,300.

It's a moot point now, that truck will be sold by tomorrow anyway.... [emoticon]


Diesel engine weighs ~900 pounds more than Hemi, so not unrealistic that this truck could be approaching 6,000#.


Facts are important!

Cummins 6.7 Crate engine wet weighs 1,070# and a 354 Hemi weighs 720# so the difference is 350# no where a 900# difference.


The Hemi version also has a lower GVWR than the diesel version, so going by the book there is no gain in payload due to the lighter engine. My opinion is that Ram increased GVWR on diesel models so it wouldn't penalize payload rating.

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