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Posted: 11/07/21 07:53am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

While watching football yesterday I saw a GMC commercial promoting its' hands free driving feature that is very scary. It shows it being used with the driver not paying attention and also in traffic and towing. We have enough distracted drivers on the road without manufacturers promoting it.

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I assume the truck was paying attention. For at least half a century we have known drivers do not pay enough attention to driving. Can't be any worse letting the machines do it for us.

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prichardson wrote:

While watching football yesterday I saw a GMC commercial promoting its' hands free driving feature that is very scary. It shows it being used with the driver not paying attention and also in traffic and towing. We have enough distracted drivers on the road without manufacturers promoting it.


I haven't seen the tv ad, but in info on the 2022 HD trucks hands free driving is outlined, BUT and with a big BUT it will ONLY work on certain designated highways, basically SOME of the interstate system.

They don't go into details, but I suspect it is only on road sections that have been completely digitized and annotated and are kept up to date through some automated process.

It has positive and negative attributes.


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Super Cruise has been available on Cadillac's for a few years now. All GM cars with onboard cameras and OnStar are recording the roadways every time they go out. They look for areas with good lane markings, etc to decide if they can be used for Super Cruise. So, it is not new and proven. Many cars, even Ford's have this feature in new models. By 2025 this will be much more common. The sensors in your vehicle never turn off and are not distracted by anything. Soon roadside sensors will be talking to your car and therefore can see beyond your cars sensors. So, if a person is jaywalking between parked vehicles, the sensors can tell your car and it can stop before that person even steps out in front of you - better visibility and faster reacting than you can.

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Thermoguy, what will it do if Airstream starts to sway? Tesla has problems with it's sensors not identifying a rock wall ahead of you after dark and can't seem to recognize an 18 wheeler crossing in front of you. Different systems but still boils down to the same thing.

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Personally, I enjoy driving my truck ... would not use a 'truck brain driver' even if it had one. Plus, driving is an art, not a science. Science is in the design and building of a vehicle, not in the driving of it.

Course, we all know a glitch never appears in a tech program ... I'd prefer a tech glitch is not the cause of me never driving again, or never walking again, or never waking up again.


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Do you think you are going to turn it on and take a nap or step in the back? No, they all have sensors to make sure the driver is paying attention, the minute you stop paying attention, alarms sound and it forces you to take control. So, if your trailer starts to sway or anything you don't like, grab the wheel and put your foot back on the accelerator or brake. Its very similar to cruise control. I don't have super cruise, but I have adaptive cruise on my Ford, just take control if you need to.

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bobsallyh wrote:

Thermoguy, what will it do if Airstream starts to sway? Tesla has problems with it's sensors not identifying a rock wall ahead of you after dark and can't seem to recognize an 18 wheeler crossing in front of you. Different systems but still boils down to the same thing.


Tesla uses a different self driving system than Cadillac. Have you ever heard of Cadillac having these problems? I haven't, not sure if that is our government controlling what we hear of if it just isn't as common.

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There have been "hands free" Cars on the road for a few years now. A few folks have been run over by them. and the "Operators" (note I said operators, not drivers, the operator is the person who turns the key or presses the START button, among other things like telling the car where to go or changing stations on the car's radio) is held responsible same as if he was driving.

So in the commercial.. it's on a closed track. no pedestrians to go SPLAT. no cars to go CRUNCH and it's safe. but on the highway/freeway/other roads.... Pay attention.

We just had a Semi driver fail to pay attention not far from me. Blew over a flagman. Slammed into a car. One (or two) Dead. Car and tractor toast (As in burned to destruction) Likely 20 years or more before he gets out of prison.


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I'll have to admit that I'm nonplussed with the idea of hands-free driving if I still have to be paying strict attention. Not really sure where the benefit is. What if it tries to do something that would be the correct thing, but I don't think so and over ride it? Either it's self-drive, or it isn't. To me there isn't any partial self-drive. If I'm not driving, I'm not paying as much attention as I would be if I were driving.


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