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I worry not for myself, but for future generations, including my child.


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I worry not for myself, but for future generations, including my child.


Then why buy into a program that promises more than it can possibly deliver (at some point in the future---but nothing today)...and follow hypocritical elites/leaders that don't walk the talk?

Which climate change elite has a home that is 4 times larger than the average home, but consumes 12 times the electricity? Said differently, whose home consumes 191,000 kwh per year while the rest of us consume on the average a measly 15,500 kwh?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tale-two-houses/

IMO, it ain't about future generations...for the elites, it is all about "me". Do as I say, not as I do.

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One might recall the conspicuous consumption (lol) surrounding the tail-fin wars of the 1950’s…Discussions of ‘net’ carbon produced aside (arguable, requiring ‘real’ data), Musk has made a fortune tapping into vehicle consumer’s physic!!…Musk, indeed a very smart fella [emoticon]

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pianotuna wrote:

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I worry not for myself, but for future generations, including my child.


Trust that I stop short of questioning anyone’s ‘Good intentions’ (me kids too), but from my perspective, I’ve seen how these movies end - thus (in lieu of intermittency…) the need for a more comprehensive ‘lights-ON’ strategy - this results in a true ‘win-win’…

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I love how folks think their EV is pollution free. Everyone in Co. Springs, CO is getting their electricity from a coal fire plant! Yes, that's clean! I love nuclear energy as well (zero emissions) but that creates it's on can of worms on disposal issues. Maybe we could load that nuclear fuel on one of Elon's rockets and send it crashing into the Sun for disposal!

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I love how folks think their EV is pollution free. Everyone in Co. Springs, CO is getting their electricity from a coal fire plant! Yes, that's clean! I love nuclear energy as well (zero emissions) but that creates it's on can of worms on disposal issues. Maybe we could load that nuclear fuel on one of Elon's rockets and send it crashing into the Sun for disposal!


Even with coal fired, the BEV is less polluting.

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https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-t........e-cleaner-than-gasoline-cars-2021-06-29/

"DETROIT, June 29{2021} (Reuters) - You glide silently out of the Tesla (TSLA.O) showroom in your sleek new electric Model 3, satisfied you're looking great and doing your bit for the planet.

But keep going - you'll have to drive another 13,500 miles (21,725 km) before you're doing less harm to the environment than a gas-guzzling saloon."

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Nice try, but do you really believe a $23k Toyota Corolla (3000 lb car with 169 hp) is comparable to a $91k Tesla (4500 lb car with 670 hp)?

Wouldn't a better comparison be a similar priced MBZ S500 (4775 lb car with 496 hp)?

Best analysis is when you have to comparable cars of similar weight, similar trim and are marketed to similar consumers. Hell, why not compare the Mini Cooper to the Tesla, your numbers would be better. Right?

Nah, I'll stick with a comprehensive study by Volvo over a simple article by in a newspaper. Gotta do better!

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LouLawrence wrote:

I love how folks think their EV is pollution free. Everyone in Co. Springs, CO is getting their electricity from a coal fire plant! Yes, that's clean! I love nuclear energy as well (zero emissions) but that creates it's on can of worms on disposal issues. Maybe we could load that nuclear fuel on one of Elon's rockets and send it crashing into the Sun for disposal!


BINGO!!…However, (not to be a wet blanket), Climate Activism (“THE SKY IS FALLING!!”…) has morphed into a politically charged cottage industry with an insatiable appetite for animating virtue and guilt (except for those sorry third world concerns), so they’d just move the goal post from carbon to argon, rendering their EV’s a moot subject…It’s not that I can’t admire EV’s (I do…) it’s just that I can see through the faux environmental hyped narrative that accompanies…

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Reported in the Hindu Times -

https://auto.hindustantimes.com/auto/news/volvo-study-shows-making-evs-leads-to-70-more-emission-compared-to-ice-vehicles-41637402945989.html

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LouLawrence wrote:

I love how folks think their EV is pollution free. Everyone in Co. Springs, CO is getting their electricity from a coal fire plant! Yes, that's clean! I love nuclear energy as well (zero emissions) but that creates it's on can of worms on disposal issues. Maybe we could load that nuclear fuel on one of Elon's rockets and send it crashing into the Sun for disposal!
There is the option to put solar on your home and use no net coal electricity. This can be done with or without an EV in your garage.
I doubt you will be the first in your area... what are you waiting for?

I look forward to the day we stop digging for coal and drilling for oil.


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