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toedtoes

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mkirsch wrote:

RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

toedtoes wrote:

Expecting a specific behavior out of people due to their career choice is a guaranteed disaster.

Ask for references, including current and past landlords, and base your choices on actual past behavior.


Sounds like a response from someone who has never been deeply involved in the rental industry. Understandable.


You don't even have to be involved in the rental industry to know how meaningless references can be. I've lost count of the number of people my company has hired based on GLOWING references only to find out how worthless and clueless they really are.


There is a way to utilize references. First, you ask the prospective renter specific questions regarding their prior renting. Questions like: have you ever had a structural/plumbing/electrical problem while renting? If so, what location and how did you handle it? Have you ever failed to pay rent on time? If so, what were the circumstances? Then, you call the landlord for that property and ask if that is what happened. This lets the landlord discuss a specific incident rather than just being asked to give an opinion. Most landlords, and employers, hesitate to make general comments about someone - sometimes because they don't to be mean, but more often because they don't want to get into a case of slander. By focusing on a specific incident, the risk of slander is very much minimized. It also allows you to catch the potential renter in a lie - after which you can remove them from the running.

And for as bad as a reference may be, using career choice as a factor is even more useless.

The military itself has slightly better odds because of the "control" a commanding officer has on their subordinates. But that is not a guarantee - military personnal can and do make bad renters and their behaviors are not always corrected.

As for any other career, there is no "this is a good career to which to rent" or "this is a bad career to which to rent". Lawyer A may be a horrid tenant, Lawyer B may be a great tenant. Musician F may be a great tentant, Musician L may be a great tenant.


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Posted: 12/02/21 05:30pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

toedtoes wrote:

mkirsch wrote:

RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

toedtoes wrote:

Expecting a specific behavior out of people due to their career choice is a guaranteed disaster.

Ask for references, including current and past landlords, and base your choices on actual past behavior.


Sounds like a response from someone who has never been deeply involved in the rental industry. Understandable.


You don't even have to be involved in the rental industry to know how meaningless references can be. I've lost count of the number of people my company has hired based on GLOWING references only to find out how worthless and clueless they really are.


There is a way to utilize references. First, you ask the prospective renter specific questions regarding their prior renting. Questions like: have you ever had a structural/plumbing/electrical problem while renting? If so, what location and how did you handle it? Have you ever failed to pay rent on time? If so, what were the circumstances? Then, you call the landlord for that property and ask if that is what happened. This lets the landlord discuss a specific incident rather than just being asked to give an opinion. Most landlords, and employers, hesitate to make general comments about someone - sometimes because they don't to be mean, but more often because they don't want to get into a case of slander. By focusing on a specific incident, the risk of slander is very much minimized. It also allows you to catch the potential renter in a lie - after which you can remove them from the running.

And for as bad as a reference may be, using career choice as a factor is even more useless.

The military itself has slightly better odds because of the "control" a commanding officer has on their subordinates. But that is not a guarantee - military personnal can and do make bad renters and their behaviors are not always corrected.

As for any other career, there is no "this is a good career to which to rent" or "this is a bad career to which to rent". Lawyer A may be a horrid tenant, Lawyer B may be a great tenant. Musician F may be a great tentant, Musician L may be a great tenant.



Just out of curiosity, how many active duty military personnel have YOU rented to over the years? My wife and I did some quick figuring this evening -- for us it has been somewhere in the 400-450 range, spanning about 18 - 20 years. We used to own a LOT of rental homes, and actually purchased homes that we could rent for an amount equivalent to what our tenants received as a monthly housing allowance. And frankly, it worked quite well for us. If you've rented to anywhere near that amount of military families, I will fully accept your experience and input you provided as being valid, at least for you, but if not, then all I'm seeing is input irrelevant to the OP's questions, and frankly holds no water at all relative to the information and suggestion I am offering to the OP.


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Really interesting discussion and thanks for all the input. When i decided to move into my truck camper full time, i was paying over 2k a month for a one bedroom in queens, i was so sick and tired of overpaying for an apt i hated and didnt even own.

its been about 8 months now, i was able to hit the reset button on my finances, regroup , and the process of downsizing/ minimizing taught me a lot about what i thought i needed to be happy,

One area where i've struggled is dating, most women just arent into it and as much as i love saving all this money, i also would like to meet a long term partner

So before i made this post, a couple weeks prior my mother had proposed to me that a family friend had an apartment opening up soon and was willing to rent it for $1000 a month , in a really nice area close to other members of my family

So the question becomes, well if i do take this apartment, what can i do with my camper? maybe i can turn it into another source of income, maybe sell it?

and thats what prompted the original post

After paying $325 a month for this camper for the last 8 months , the prospect of going back to renting wasn't exactly appealing, but the deal was just too good to pass up.


If i cant rent my RV without taking massive risk then im going to sell it

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Posted: 12/03/21 07:41pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Sell it, the market for used RV’s is hot right now but will cool and then there will be a lot of used RV’s, cheap.

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Makes sense. And sell it if you’re not going to use it. You do t have a very “rentable” camper unless you send the truck with it, IMO.


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