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Posted: 01/13/22 01:31pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

"I suspect GM & Ford are in it together as I've never seen them challenge the numbers." ME TOO Valhalla.


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I'm thinking given the shape of Elon's truck, the engineers are wrestling with Federal safety standards for trucks, particularly frontal and side impacts?

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This conversation happens at least once a year...

"GM outsold Ford."
"No it di'n't. Chevy and GMC are separate brands!"
"Di' too! They're basically the same truck so it counts!"
"So what? F150 sold the most of any truck model."
"Who cares? GM outsold Ford!"
"Di' not!"
"Di' too!"
"Di' noooot!"
"Di' tooooooooooo!"

Anybody else notice this?


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mkirsch wrote:

This conversation happens at least once a year...

"GM outsold Ford."
"No it di'n't. Chevy and GMC are separate brands!"
"Di' too! They're basically the same truck so it counts!"
"So what? F150 sold the most of any truck model."
"Who cares? GM outsold Ford!"
"Di' not!"
"Di' too!"
"Di' noooot!"
"Di' tooooooooooo!"

Anybody else notice this?

More importantly... who cares? I buy the truck that fits MY needs the best, not the truck that has the best advertising or sells the most. Maybe Ford sells the most because they have the most fan boys and their trucks break down every 6 years, requiring a new truck every 6 years. Maybe GM sells the most because they are the most stolen because they have faulty locks, requiring a new truck every time they get stolen.

I really don't care who sells what, I just want a good truck.


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More importantly... who cares? I buy the truck that fits MY needs the best, not the truck that has the best advertising or sells the most. Maybe Ford sells the most because they have the most fan boys and their trucks break down every 6 years, requiring a new truck every 6 years. Maybe GM sells the most because they are the most stolen because they have faulty locks, requiring a new truck every time they get stolen.

I really don't care who sells what, I just want a good truck.


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I’ve owned all 3 majors over the years and consider them all to build good trucks. I’m not brand loyal, but have tended towards more GMs. I had my GMC 2002 3/4T for 11yrs and ~180k miles when I replaced it with a 2013 Chevy 3500; that now has 175k on the odometer and I’ve ordered an F350 that I’m looking forward to getting in a month or so.

Interestingly, last week I took a look around the campground we were at. Ignoring grocery-getters, the distribution of 3/4 & 1Ts were as expected: 7 Fords, 8 GMs, and 6 Rams. All good trucks, and about the same distribution I seem to see running down the road.


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Visit the full timer Campgrounds you will see different numbers.


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I can count on one hand how many GM DRW's I see in campgrounds. Not sure why that is. I also very rarely see one around town.
Here in the great PNW it's really 50/50 Ford/Ram whether 1/2 or HD.

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ktmrfs wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

ACZL wrote:

Read something yesterday and not sure of others saw/read it as well, but it said that GM outsold Ford in truck sales for 2021. If true, that would dethrone Ford as the #1 seller of trucks 45+ years running. Truth or rumor?


The sales title has always been a bit of a gimmick. I suspect GM & Ford are in it together as I've never seen them challenge the numbers.

If you look at the specific model, F150 usually wins.
If you combine sierra & silverado (which are effectively the exact same truck except for the name badges), GM usually wins.

In the end, it really doesn't matter. Both sell enough that finding parts and getting repairs will not be an issue (same applies to Dodge and Toyota).


who win's depends on what is said. Which BRAND sold the most, Ford is perenial winner. Which COMPANY sold the most, General Motors most often outsells Ford Motor Company with Chevy and GMC combined sales. Which model sells the most, Ford F150 is a decades long winner. Which is the lowest selling brand? I'll bet GMC is near the bottom, below RAM/Dodge, maybe even toyota, but above Nissan and honda. (just my guess since I don't have any data)

To me it is all irrelevant. I buy what I like the best for what I want to do. All three mfg make really nice trucks today. Glad I have so much to choose from.


Model 2021 sales
GM Trucks (COMBINED)* 768,698
Ford F-Series 726,004
Ram Trucks 569,388
– Chevrolet Silverado 519,774
– GMC Sierra 248,924
Toyota Tundra 81,959
Nissan Titan 27,406


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