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Posted: 02/18/22 10:27am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Chuck .. wrote:

One of the big questions to ask is can you safely stop that trailer within most normal driving cases. You have to drive like your Grandma coming up to a stop sign or light, going down hill and sharp corners or that Big Hog will push you right through a Red light intersection. or over and down a canyon. Do carry about your wife or grandkids with you???

If you are over weight and get in a accident, pulling more than the truck and trailer is designed for; the insurance company can say we will not pay you a dime. You have no coverage! Happened to my neighbors friend in Utah.


Lol, how many times will these stories be told about the friends brother in laws uncle?

Yes, a forum comprised of mostly engineers/lawyers. [emoticon]

My armchair lawyers degree says you can be over weight, plus distracted, and add intoxicated; insurance is still responsible, and will cover this accident.

Burbman states he will weigh rig camp ready. I think he will be GTG. The scaled axles will have final say.

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"My armchair lawyers degree says you can be over weight, plus distracted, and add intoxicated; insurance is still responsible, and will cover this accident."

100% concur !!!!!!!!!!!


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BurbMan wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

I just know things can weigh MUCH more than a person thinks and suggest you should know your actual weights.


TXiceman wrote:

I am a mechanical engineer and get some really good chuckles at the internet engineers.


Would sure be helpful if you shared your extensive knowledge instead of just laughing at us.


I share plenty of information and advice across more than one website. But all too often, these internet engineers come across and tell the unsuspecting that with their 3/4-ton truck, they can safely pull a triple axle 44 ft toy hauler. All they need are air bags and they are good to go.

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Don’t forget the 19.5’s.

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

Do your homework. Some are VERY heavy!!!!!


Sometimes “heavy” can be your friend!

Trying to get home yesterday, before the winter weather got to our home......we drove from Cheyenne to Casper on I 25 last evening. “Quite breezy”! High cross winds from the west, we passed 5 trailers on their sides (2 semis and 3 bumper pull type trailers), with winds gusting to 65+(according to the signs along the interstate)......we slowed to 50 mph and felt very stable with barely a wiggle!

The wife just read that there were a few gusts well above the 65 mark.....Bordeaux (just east of I 25 recorded a 99 mile gust). The 40’s to 60’s weren’t bad.....the 99 may have gotten ugly!

Weight is your friend....but, it also has it’s limits. Glad we didn’t get the 99! [emoticon]memtb


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Understood. My comment is more to make people realize they need plenty of truck.

Our DRV is 24k. I have towed in some crazy winds never slowing down and never feeling unsafe.

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So many people shy away from weight.....I was attempting to emphasize to the op that quality generally comes with additional weight.....and weight is not really a bad thing! As we both can attest to!

And as you also mentioned have plenty of truck......another good thing to have! memtb

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Weight is your friend but sometimes weight is not enough.

We were relatively new at the time when we lost our first Alpenlite 34RLR to a blowover west of Laramie, WY. We were loaded at the time having just shopped for at least 3 weeks worth of food & the water tank was full with 100gal onboard.

The prolonged very strong gust of wind hit us on our 'heavy' side, where the fridge is, & over she went.


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memtb wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Understood. My comment is more to make people realize they need plenty of truck.

Our DRV is 24k. I have towed in some crazy winds never slowing down and never feeling unsafe.


So many people shy away from weight.....I was attempting to emphasize to the op that quality generally comes with additional weight.....and weight is not really a bad thing! As we both can attest to!

And as you also mentioned have plenty of truck......another good thing to have! memtb


Generally, weight is a sign of better and heavier construction and is good. But with weight comes a bigger truck.

I get tired of the people that say they found the perfect trailer and it is a 3-axle toy hauler that only weighs 18,000 lb. dry weight. And then he adds emphatically that there is no way he can drive a long bed truck or a dually.

They need to understand that they need to ignore trailer dry weight and look at the trailer GVWR for truck selection data.

The truthful and simple solution for them is look for a smaller trailer.

Another thing to watch for is if the trailer is designated lite weight or super lite, run away from it unless you will only use it as a weekend trailer a few weekends out of the year.

I'll fold up my soapbox and return to eating my oatmeal.

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QUOTE from TXiceman:

I get tired of the people that say they found the perfect trailer and it is a 3-axle toy hauler that only weighs 18,000 lb. dry weight. And then he adds emphatically that there is no way he can drive a long bed truck or a dually.


I question the person that would make this statement! Was it lack of skills or their location ( roads/cities/parking lots designed for small autos.

Skills “should” be easily accomplished....my 12 or 13 yo daughter’s first driving experience was on a gravel road in the Wyoming mountains with a Ford F 250, long bed, manual tranny, towing a 16 ft. flatbed trailer when going to cut firewood!

That said, everyone should know their limitations! Some folks should not be trusted with a tricycle! [emoticon] memtb

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