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Posted: 02/18/22 08:49am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Def is stupid to begin with

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Grit dog wrote:

4 pages...on this? Nice work kids!


It is interesting to see you have appointed yourself as arbiter of what is interesting to members on this forum. The "Kids" comments implies the posters are childish. Yet, here you are, posting on the bottom of page 4!

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Durb wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

4 pages...on this? Nice work kids!


It is interesting to see you have appointed yourself as arbiter of what is interesting to members on this forum. The "Kids" comments implies the posters are childish. Yet, here you are, posting on the bottom of page 4!


He has a point. These discussions are inane.

We're talking about pouring out a jug here. It's not rocket science. If the handle is awkward to hold when you're pouring it properly maybe the handle wasn't meant to be used while pouring? You don't even hold a gallon jug of antifreeze by the handle to pour it out, you hold it by the sides. The handle is there for transport of the jug, not for dispensing.


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mkirsch wrote:

Durb wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

4 pages...on this? Nice work kids!


It is interesting to see you have appointed yourself as arbiter of what is interesting to members on this forum. The "Kids" comments implies the posters are childish. Yet, here you are, posting on the bottom of page 4!


He has a point. These discussions are inane.

We're talking about pouring out a jug here. It's not rocket science. If the handle is awkward to hold when you're pouring it properly maybe the handle wasn't meant to be used while pouring? You don't even hold a gallon jug of antifreeze by the handle to pour it out, you hold it by the sides. The handle is there for transport of the jug, not for dispensing.


Have to agree with this one. I'm either lacking the skills or the patience (could be either on any given day) to use the included spout with the 2.5 gallon jugs of DEF...so I just got a long-neck funnel and use that to pour in the DEF. Toss it in the back of the truck between uses.


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"Toss it in the back of the truck between uses."

You can do that but I highly advise keeping that funnel spotless.


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Truth is this post generted 4 pages because spilling is a real issue.
The spout is not user friendly. yes some have figured it out or come up with a strategy,but the issue is real.
Finding a easy fix doesn't appear to be easy!
The big 3 did a decent job in discovering the usefulness of DEF in their emissions system.
However the logistics of putting DEF to use has been problematic.
From the lack of gauges to dripping spouts, DEF implemenation has been an issue.


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Lantley wrote:

I don't disagree that GM trucks under the hood fill is a horrible location.
But it does eliminate..maybe I should say reduce the chances of someone putting DEF in the fuel tank or vice versa.
My bigger complaint is not the fill lpocation but the fact there is no gauge!
How can you have a truck with a consumable fluid an no gauge. Just a random unreliable warning message.


Totally agree!

I usually get a warning that I have 500 (?) kms left in the tank, but in northern Ontario in the middle of nowhere I got a notification that my engine would soon go into reduced power mode. Glad I carried an extra jug.

A gauge would be nice.


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

"Toss it in the back of the truck between uses."

You can do that but I highly advise keeping that funnel spotless.
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The DEF systems on our trucks do NOT have any type of filter. like the fuel, air, and oil systems do. This means that any contaiminates that find their way into the tank, can wreak havoc.
This is also the reason I do not buy it at the pump. cleanliness is VERY important when handling DEF to avoid an expensive repair bill.
The small savings one can realize buy at the pumps can by wiped out many times over from getting contaiminates in the system.

As for GM putting the DEF tank under the hood... The reason was quite simple.. DEF was a new item for the consumers, and GM thought that putting it under the hood, would greatly reduce the chance of misfills at the pumps. From reading the forums over many years, it appears that GM was correct. I have NEVER read where someone mixed up the DEF/diesel fills on a GM. The Ford forums did have several reports on this.



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I use the Ford Motorcraft spout for a no drama DEF fill process. It features a snap on nozzle to fill port so it doesn't come out of the fill port while filling. After use I rinse with tap water and let it dry for a couple of days and then place it back into the plastic bag.

After almost 10 years and 236k miles I still have the factory original DEF system.

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where does the empty jug goes after it is empty? chevman


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