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Retired JSO wrote:If you apply for Starlink today, you may get it within 2 years. My neighbor applied last February 2021 and is still awaiting his equipment.
It's easy enough to get a Starlink within a week or so. I've gone through the process twice (once for the round, once for the rectangular dish) - but you have to play with service addresses. There is a FB group for Starlink use in RVs, and it's full of documentation on it. The people who are waiting that long are the ones who just put in their exact address, and don't look into it any further.
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n0arp wrote:Retired JSO wrote:If you apply for Starlink today, you may get it within 2 years. My neighbor applied last February 2021 and is still awaiting his equipment.
The people who are waiting that long are the ones who just put in their exact address, and don't look into it any further.
Please translate into wider group-speak…I have no idea whatsoever why an exact address won’t work, nor the necessity to join FB… This sounds crazy…
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3 tons wrote:n0arp wrote:Retired JSO wrote:If you apply for Starlink today, you may get it within 2 years. My neighbor applied last February 2021 and is still awaiting his equipment.
The people who are waiting that long are the ones who just put in their exact address, and don't look into it any further.
Please translate into wider group-speak…I have no idea whatsoever why an exact address won’t work, nor the necessity to join FB… This sounds crazy…
It's very simple and nothing crazy. There are certain addresses that will accept immediate orders, and some that won't. You set your *service address* to one that will, and your shipping address to your actual address or wherever you want to receive the package. On the FB group, there are people tracking and reporting what addresses are accepting immediate orders, along with explaining how it all works.
Generally speaking, your exact address may not be eligible for immediate shipment, but one five miles away in the next town is. Or, with roaming now being available, you can use an address clear across the country and still have a reasonable expectation for fast and reliable service. Service is per cell, so you are usually not roaming if you are within approximately 15mi of your service address. RVers have been hopping around the country and changing their service addresses with every move for about a year now. With roaming, which was enabled on 02/18/2022 - you no longer have to change your service address, but can roam instead. Roaming does not guarantee the same level of service, but most people are reporting that there is no notable difference.
My last order used a plus code in the middle of the desert for a service address, and a mailing center in a small town for a shipping address.
Here is an example order. An order to Sheep Bridge Rd in Virgin, UT, with shipping to a mailing center that allows you to receive packages in St George, UT. That's more or less how I ordered mine. And it's taking full payment, so it will ship out in 2-3 days. If it only requires a deposit, it adds you to a waiting list.
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You can change service addresses any time after ordering (and available service addresses do not necessarily corroborate with addresses that accept full orders), or just use roaming.
There are a few arm-chair observations and assumptions in this thread that simply aren't true. To clear them up:
1) There are no long term commitments required. All service is month to month.
2) You can get it within a week if you use a service address that is open to ordering.
3) In-motion service works but is not fully approved at this time - YMMV if using it AND equipment warranty is voided.
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When we toured Big Bend Country many years ago, it was AT&T country. We managed to get internet service with an outside, directional, cell receiver. I would think that service has improved in the last 12-15 years.
I just checked and that area is still AT&T country. But no coverage in the park.
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Thanks for the added information…So IF I have this right (??….) when you say ‘service address’ this means the (general?) location of your whereabouts for reception, versus ‘exact address’ is where you receive your mail, and service address needs to be occasional updated as you move on to other locations - at least that’s what I’m thinking…
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3 tons wrote:Thanks for the added information…So IF I have this right (??….) when you say ‘service address’ this means the (general?) location of your whereabouts for reception, versus ‘exact address’ is where you receive your mail, and service address needs to be occasional updated as you move on to other locations - at least that’s what I’m thinking…
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Yeah, "service address" is where you expect to use the dish. When you go to their website and type in an address to see if it is available, that is the service address. Further into the checkout procedure, you can enter a different shipping address for them to send it to. It's always been possible to use a different service address than your exact location, and historically, within about a 15mi radius would still guarantee you service. More on that in my next paragraph. We found that if it didn't like the first service address you tried, you could often, but not always, find an eligible address or plus code within that 15mi radius, and just change the shipping address to have it sent to you.
Up until Feb 18, anyone moving around and using Starlink had to change their service address on the Starlink website every time they moved. Again, any usable service address within about a 15mi radius would work. On Feb 18, they began to allow roaming, and now updating the service address is no longer necessary. The caveat is they "only guarantee service at the service address", so if are using it elsewhere, it's on a best-effort basis. We, and many other people, have had great luck with just roaming this last month and a half.
Starlink is still very much a work in progress and evolving all the time, but with the recent update to allow roaming, it has become our primary source of Internet, enough that I'm considering dropping one or both of my expensive grandfathered unlimited cellular options in the next few months if nothing changes.
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n0arp wrote:3 tons wrote:Thanks for the added information…So IF I have this right (??….) when you say ‘service address’ this means the (general?) location of your whereabouts for reception, versus ‘exact address’ is where you receive your mail, and service address needs to be occasional updated as you move on to other locations - at least that’s what I’m thinking…
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Yeah, "service address" is where you expect to use the dish. When you go to their website and type in an address to see if it is available, that is the service address. Further into the checkout procedure, you can enter a different shipping address for them to send it to. It's always been possible to use a different service address than your exact location, and historically, within about a 15mi radius would still guarantee you service. More on that in my next paragraph. We found that if it didn't like the first service address you tried, you could often, but not always, find an eligible address or plus code within that 15mi radius, and just change the shipping address to have it sent to you.
Up until Feb 18, anyone moving around and using Starlink had to change their service address on the Starlink website every time they moved. Again, any usable service address within about a 15mi radius would work. On Feb 18, they began to allow roaming, and now updating the service address is no longer necessary. The caveat is they "only guarantee service at the service address", so if are using it elsewhere, it's on a best-effort basis. We, and many other people, have had great luck with just roaming this last month and a half.
Starlink is still very much a work in progress and evolving all the time, but with the recent update to allow roaming, it has become our primary source of Internet, enough that I'm considering dropping one or both of my expensive grandfathered unlimited cellular options in the next few months if nothing changes.
Ok, sorry for all my consternation, thank you ![[emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile")
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Where are you coming up with them allowing you to move around with it? Everything I have read says it is for a single address location only. When I check my service address, it says my area is already at maximum capacity and to expect delivery in 2023. I looked all over their website and could not find roaming was OK. I also read that they plan to have a mobile version, but it was a few years out.
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Thermoguy wrote:Where are you coming up with them allowing you to move around with it? Everything I have read says it is for a single address location only. When I check my service address, it says my area is already at maximum capacity and to expect delivery in 2023. I looked all over their website and could not find roaming was OK. I also read that they plan to have a mobile version, but it was a few years out.
They enabled roaming in Feb, and added the following to the Terms of Service on their website:
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It's mostly referred to as roaming, because in the debug data, if you are out of your native cell, it sets the roaming flag to yes.
Portability seems to be nationwide (continental USA), because on the FB group I mentioned, people have reported it working all over the country, with very few exceptions. I have a CO service address and have been using my service in AZ, CA, NV, and UT without issue. We're currently camping with another couple, using our old round dish, who also have a CO service address and are seeing similar results.
There is also a very good chance that if you place an order with a different service address, you can move service to your exact address. We’ve found that just because you can’t place an order somewhere, doesn’t mean you can’t set your service address there as an existing customer.
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n0arp wrote:Thermoguy wrote:Where are you coming up with them allowing you to move around with it? Everything I have read says it is for a single address location only. When I check my service address, it says my area is already at maximum capacity and to expect delivery in 2023. I looked all over their website and could not find roaming was OK. I also read that they plan to have a mobile version, but it was a few years out.
They enabled roaming in Feb, and added the following to the Terms of Service on their website:
It's mostly referred to as roaming, because in the debug data, if you are out of your native cell, it sets the roaming flag to yes.
Portability seems to be nationwide (continental USA), because on the FB group I mentioned, people have reported it working all over the country, with very few exceptions. I have a CO service address and have been using my service in AZ, CA, NV, and UT without issue. We're currently camping with another couple, using our old round dish, who also have a CO service address and are seeing similar results.
There is also a very good chance that if you place an order with a different service address, you can move service to your exact address. We’ve found that just because you can’t place an order somewhere, doesn’t mean you can’t set your service address there as an existing customer.
Anyone who shells out that much coin for something that comes with those terms is a financial fool IMO. It essentially says we can shut you off at any time for any reason or our stuff may just not work and in that case too bad. But hey its your money. I tried to subscribe for the farm, says I might receive hardware and service in 2023 or later if I send a $100. Screw that.
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