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Seriously, I would make the effort and have the death wobble fixed. On my old 2004, it was ball joints, replaced them, no more wobble. As for reliability, I would take any 5.9 Cummins before any GM or Ford. Ford feels like driving a brick, GM's seats are like milk crates.


I haven't driven a GM but I've driven two recent model year Super Duty diesels, an F-250 and an F-350 and honestly I didn't like the way either one drove very well. They felt very isolated from the road, the steering had no feel to it and the turning radius sucked. They're nice trucks and are certainly faster than my Cummins, and they shifted better. Roomier back seat too which matters to me with 3 kids. I'd definitely buy a new Ram CTD over the Super Duty again if I had a do-over, though. GM, I don't know - the current models look pretty nice on paper.


I'm not a big Ford fan but I did own two 2004 E350 based RVs. One had the problem of absolutely no road feel at all - it was like driving a video game. The other drove perfectly fine. An engineer friend of mine who had worked for Ford at one time told me the drive systems used were "fly-by-wire" and a simple adjustment to the firmware could solve the problem which could be done by any Ford Dealer who serviced trucks. Got rid of the bad one before doing that though.

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My 2008 3500 SRW 4x4 Ram has never "death wobbled". That said, I bet a 2022 3500 GM would be a nice truck but what if it didn't drive better?


As subjective as what "drive better" means, I think there is zero chance of that.


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Thanks for the replies everyone. Sorry for the no response, I was away from the computer. The older 2500 Dodge's with the diesel are well known for the poor front end. I already spent $3,000 on the front end once and 5 years later I am looking at doing it again. I am also looking at a heavier 5th wheel so I want to go to a 3500/1 ton. The length of my garage dictates it will need to be a short bed so SRW is where I need to be.
I have used the GMC search option and contacted all of the dealerships within 50 miles trying to find a truck to drive. As for Ram's, a search for them found one DRW within 200 miles.
We are getting prepared for retirement and we will be traveling across the country putting many miles on. I want to be comfortable in whatever truck I end up buying.


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schlep1967 wrote:

Thanks for the replies everyone. Sorry for the no response, I was away from the computer. The older 2500 Dodge's with the diesel are well known for the poor front end. I already spent $3,000 on the front end once and 5 years later I am looking at doing it again. I am also looking at a heavier 5th wheel so I want to go to a 3500/1 ton. The length of my garage dictates it will need to be a short bed so SRW is where I need to be.
I have used the GMC search option and contacted all of the dealerships within 50 miles trying to find a truck to drive. As for Ram's, a search for them found one DRW within 200 miles.
We are getting prepared for retirement and we will be traveling across the country putting many miles on. I want to be comfortable in whatever truck I end up buying.


If you wanna PM me the specifics of the truck you are look for, I will keep an eye out over here for you... I also know a few people that MAY be able to keep an eye out as well


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Was just on GMC's website where you can chat with an expert to find the vehicle you want. He found one for me to test drive. Only a nine hour round trip for a test drive. I don't think I'm making that trip.

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Was just on GMC's website where you can chat with an expert to find the vehicle you want. He found one for me to test drive. Only a nine hour round trip for a test drive. I don't think I'm making that trip.


Only 9 hours?? that's probably $500.00 in fuel now ! ! [emoticon]

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schlep1967 wrote:

Thanks for the replies everyone. Sorry for the no response, I was away from the computer. The older 2500 Dodge's with the diesel are well known for the poor front end. I already spent $3,000 on the front end once and 5 years later I am looking at doing it again. I am also looking at a heavier 5th wheel so I want to go to a 3500/1 ton. The length of my garage dictates it will need to be a short bed so SRW is where I need to be.
I have used the GMC search option and contacted all of the dealerships within 50 miles trying to find a truck to drive. As for Ram's, a search for them found one DRW within 200 miles.
We are getting prepared for retirement and we will be traveling across the country putting many miles on. I want to be comfortable in whatever truck I end up buying.


How many miles on the ole Dodge? "The older 2500 Dodge's with the diesel are well known for the poor front end." is just plain funny. Yes the 2nd Gens with D60 (not kingpin 60s) did wear a bit quicker.
The AAM axles and Dodge components were/are as durable as any solid axle truck out there. A great deal of the "bad" front ends were and still are customers who get suckered by shops telling them a perfectly good setup is "out of spec". I had one of those. It "needed ball joints" according to the shop at like 70k miles. Sold it at 190k with original ball joints, tie rods/ends and pittman etc. Still drove straight good tire wear and fairly tight.

Regardless, have you tried Chevy dealers and used car lots? It's not magical. They are all similar if you are in a similar trim level.
GM seats in the newest model trucks do have short seat bottoms compared to the other 2 brands. Not uncomfortable, but I'd take the 100k mile seats in my 2016 Ram over the new leather seats in my 2020 Silverado, if given the choice.

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schlep1967 wrote:

Was just on GMC's website where you can chat with an expert to find the vehicle you want. He found one for me to test drive. Only a nine hour round trip for a test drive. I don't think I'm making that trip.


Only 9 hours?? that's probably $500.00 in fuel now ! ! [emoticon]


Come on now...you know you just charge that fuel cost off to a company business trip. Might even make a few bucks at xx per mile. [emoticon]

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If you are coming through Michigan, I just got my Silverado LTZ 3500 standard bed. If I am heading through PA, I will let you know.


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Maybe a rental outfit could rent you one for an afternoon?


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