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Not exactly on topic but remember when the Safety adds said "Alcohol and Gasoline do not mix" (Of course they were talking about alcohol inside the Driver and gasoline inside the tank. but hey.. Intent of post is laughing.


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E85 gas has been sold for years at U-Gas stations in Florida. I don't use it in our Honda. My understanding is E85 has 51% to 83% ethanol. U-Gas always has plenty of customers, however; the gas cost the same as the 10% ethanol gas stations. I don't see the savings going to 15% ethanol will accomplish.


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miltvill wrote:

E85 gas has been sold for years at U-Gas stations in Florida. I don't use it in our Honda. My understanding is E85 has 51% to 83% ethanol. U-Gas always has plenty of customers, however; the gas cost the same as the 10% ethanol gas stations. I don't see the savings going to 15% ethanol will accomplish.
Any initial savings is lost in fuel economy due to lower energy content.


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time2roll wrote:

miltvill wrote:

E85 gas has been sold for years at U-Gas stations in Florida. I don't use it in our Honda. My understanding is E85 has 51% to 83% ethanol. U-Gas always has plenty of customers, however; the gas cost the same as the 10% ethanol gas stations. I don't see the savings going to 15% ethanol will accomplish.
Any initial savings is lost in fuel economy due to lower energy content.


Depends on how much less $$ it is to how many mpg's you lose. You could actually save money.

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The only vehicles that should run E15 are those that are already flex-fuel certified (ie can run E85), anyone running E15 in a non-flex system is in for a world of hurt with very expensive repair bill coming most likely.


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With one of the world’s biggest breadbaskets forced to likely forego it’s next crop planting season, and food prices beginning to escalate, seems like the perfect misuse of America’s corn…JMO

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Agreed, it's always been a handout to big ag.


ROFLMAO.......................................Handout?


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afidel wrote:

The only vehicles that should run E15 are those that are already flex-fuel certified (ie can run E85), anyone running E15 in a non-flex system is in for a world of hurt with very expensive repair bill coming most likely.


Where did that info come from. Toyo says to not run greater than E 15 in my highlander. [emoticon]

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Wade44 wrote:

cptqueeg wrote:

3 tons wrote:

With one of the world’s biggest breadbaskets forced to likely forego it’s next crop planting season, and food prices beginning to escalate, seems like the perfect misuse of America’s corn…JMO

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Agreed, it's always been a handout to big ag.


ROFLMAO.......................................Handout?



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Even worse it has already been shown that more ethanol is not better. Any amount beyond a few percent is useless in terms of cleaner burning. In fact, it has an overall lower BTU compared to straight gas IOW...lower MPGs. Most cars on the road today are not able to run E-15 without issue/s.


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goducks10 wrote:

time2roll wrote:

miltvill wrote:

E85 gas has been sold for years at U-Gas stations in Florida. I don't use it in our Honda. My understanding is E85 has 51% to 83% ethanol. U-Gas always has plenty of customers, however; the gas cost the same as the 10% ethanol gas stations. I don't see the savings going to 15% ethanol will accomplish.
Any initial savings is lost in fuel economy due to lower energy content.


Depends on how much less $$ it is to how many mpg's you lose. You could actually save money.


For me personally, I won't buy E85 unless it's at least 25% less than E10. Anymore I see E85 for only a few pennies less than E10.

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