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rhagfo
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HTElectrical wrote:2022 Crew Cab, Standard Bed 4WD, 6.6L Duramax Turbo-Diesel V8 engine:
Max GCWR = 29,700 Single, Dual 40,000
Max Conventional Trailering 20,000 Single, 20,000 Dual
Max Payload 5,343 Single, 6,838 Dual
GVWR 12,100 Single, 14,000 Dual
Rear Gross Axle Weight Rating 7,250 Single, 10,500 Dual
You DO NOT NEED A DUALLY to safely, comfortably, or any other matter tow that trailer!!!!!!!!!!
Well it seems you are picking and choosing your numbers, a Diesel DRW will not have a 6,838# payload.
14,000 - 6,838 = 7,162 that is one stripped down gas DRW.
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Looking online, the trailer has a GVWR of 18,000lb. That means the pin weight of around 3800-4600lb.
Tow rating, you should be fine.
Payload is where you are likely to run out with a 3/4ton or a SRW 1 ton. There is a sticker on the door panel that lists the payload for a truck.
So if you are at say 4500lb pin weight you need to add:
- 200lb for the hitch
- Passengers...a family of 4 can easily add 500-600lb
- Bolt on accessories (running boards, brush guards, etc...) say 200lb
- Gear stowed in truck...say 300lb
- At 18k, you will want the diesel which will add maybe 700lb
That totals up to around 6400lb of payload used...which is squarely in dually range.
- Even if you travel solo and keep the other loads minimized, staying within the SRW 1 ton payload is going to be iffy.
Keep in mind the post above is pretty much a unicorn truck where the available payload is absolutely maxed out by getting the most stripped down possible truck. Get the luxury harley/lariat/platinum and that can eat up a few hundred pounds of payload.
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Windowman
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I’m looking at a used Chevrolet 3500 dually with an 8.1 in it. I would like to keep a diesel but my budget right now wouldn’t allow it and I don’t think my 2500 diesel would fit or be too much for me to convert it.
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Windowman wrote:I’m looking at a used Chevrolet 3500 dually with an 8.1 in it. I would like to keep a diesel but my budget right now wouldn’t allow it and I don’t think my 2500 diesel would fit or be too much for me to convert it.
I was assuming you were going diesel with an 18k GVWR trailer.
Depends on the year, cab style and fit out...the 2021 (6.6 not 8.1) max out at around 17k.
The 2022 diesel jumps you up to at least 21k tow rating (payload still needs a check but likely OK with a dually)
Check your specific truck build but I would be surprised if you have an 18k tow rating on an older truck. More importantly, I would expect it to be a miserable towing experience.
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Windowman wrote:I’m looking at a used Chevrolet 3500 dually with an 8.1 in it. I would like to keep a diesel but my budget right now wouldn’t allow it and I don’t think my 2500 diesel would fit or be too much for me to convert it.
Your "2500 diesel", if it's in perfect mechanical shape, might get that size a trailer up to about 50mph downhill with a wind behind it...
But I wouldn't take it down a big hill...unless you have a clear runout at the bottom!
The 8.1 Alli will pull it better than the ole 6.5 Turdbo Diesel, but still be sucking sidewalk.
Not sure how you "pulled trailers all your life including transfer pups" and have these conceptual questions, but every 40' WW I've seen is a triple axle behemoth. Not suitable to tow safely or with any efficiency behind anything other than a diesel, from this century. Preferably a dually.
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The question I have is what did you tow it with already? You said "your trailer" so presumably you own said trailer...
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HTElectrical
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rhagfo wrote:HTElectrical wrote:2022 Crew Cab, Standard Bed 4WD, 6.6L Duramax Turbo-Diesel V8 engine:
Max GCWR = 29,700 Single, Dual 40,000
Max Conventional Trailering 20,000 Single, 20,000 Dual
Max Payload 5,343 Single, 6,838 Dual
GVWR 12,100 Single, 14,000 Dual
Rear Gross Axle Weight Rating 7,250 Single, 10,500 Dual
You DO NOT NEED A DUALLY to safely, comfortably, or any other matter tow that trailer!!!!!!!!!!
Well it seems you are picking and choosing your numbers, a Diesel DRW will not have a 6,838# payload.
14,000 - 6,838 = 7,162 that is one stripped down gas DRW.
I took those numbers directly from the GM website. I picked the heavier truck Crew Cab.
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Windowman wrote:I’m looking at a used Chevrolet 3500 dually with an 8.1 in it. I would like to keep a diesel but my budget right now wouldn’t allow it and I don’t think my 2500 diesel would fit or be too much for me to convert it.
Since you are going with an older truck, you will need a dually, and I do not think you will be happy with a Gas powered truck, Diesel would be preferred.
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rhagfo
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HTElectrical wrote:Windowman wrote:I’m looking at a used Chevrolet 3500 dually with an 8.1 in it. I would like to keep a diesel but my budget right now wouldn’t allow it and I don’t think my 2500 diesel would fit or be too much for me to convert it.
Since you are going with an older truck, you will need a dually, and I do not think you will be happy with a Gas powered truck, Diesel would be preferred.
Just can’t even imagine towing 18,000# with a gas engine on anything, but flat ground.
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Yes I have been towing trailers like 32 foot single wide mobile homes and I used to drive truck transfer trucks hauling gravel dirt and not the ones with the little pup trailers on the back.
I would never try and pull this trailer with my 2500 because it is old and I just wouldn’t trust it. The truck I’m looking at will be a temporary truck because I didn’t really wanna pass up the price when all it needs is the fiberglass side panels on the bed because original owner backed into a couple of fences with them. I figured this would get me in the trailer to where I wanna go for a new better paying job and then I could turn around and sell it once I find the truck I’m looking for, Plus I use my motorcycle for commuting on.
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