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We all have had that occasion, that maybe a higher power was looking out for us. In the pics above 12V certainly is an example. The good pics make a great safety public service awareness for anyone towing, especially double towing, to show the added force applied to second trailer.

Bionic Man makes a good point, as to why the added stress to second trailer attachment. My factory receiver on back of FW, like many, states 300 hitch wt, 3,000 trailer wt. Mine is well designed, heavy steel tubing, frame rail to rail, and to look, you'd say it would handle much more than the CYA specs.

When you amplify that 300 lbs, with the whip/bounce, up/down action of a dip in the road, going over a bridge, anything that feels like a speed bump, the stress of 300 lbs dead weight is much higher. It is the same reason many lose their bicycles mounted on the rear.

Anyway glad Cummins12V98 had a safe trip! Yes, just having a co-pilot to talk with, to keep you awake/alert is helpful, when towing long distance.

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4x4ord wrote:

That looks a little scary alright! I know what you mean regarding how easy it is to not notice the second trailer. I think it is certainly safer for me to double tow than it is for me to have my bike riding on a carrier 13 feet behind my 5vers rear axle, but, because double towing is illegal in BC I carry my bike far more than I double tow. I can not understand why double towing is not legal on all highways. What kind of fuel economy did you get coming home 12V?


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I am happy with those numbers based on double towing along with some headwinds and 35k combined. I towed at 60 mph the whole trip. Normal no wind trip I would be right around 9mpg.


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Bionic Man wrote:

The 2nd trailer takes a ton of stress when you double tow. I think it is because the connection point is so far back behind the first trailer axles.

I've double towed since about 2000. In that time, I have broken the hitch on the back of my trailer, broken the weld on the tower that holds my boat winch, and broken the weld that holds the pin on my brake away tongue.

In 2014 I had the rear of my 5er reinforced, along with the hitch. A welder reinforced the frame of the trailer all the way forward of the axles, and put on a very heavy duty hitch.

I'm done towing my big boat, but still tow a 17' Ranger.

Anyway, keep a close eye on all potential failure points. They are under considerable stress.

Glad it ended well for you.


Good advice! My great friend is a Machinist and metal fabricator. He has lots of experience in rebuilding trailers etc. I will get it to his shop and we will beef the HE!! out of it.

I will call Kendon tomorrow and see what they say. It is a two bike cruiser rated model.

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The upside would have been it would have made upgrading to an Indian a little easier...


My friend that is going to help rebuild the trailer has a 17 Darkhorse Chieftain that is VERY nice!

I will say I am more than impressed with my 09 FLHTCU ElectraClassic UltraGlide.

My two best friends came down to SoCal to visit and ride, ride, and ride some more earlier this month!!!

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We all have had that occasion, that maybe a higher power was looking out for us. In the pics above 12V certainly is an example. The good pics make a great safety public service awareness for anyone towing, especially double towing, to show the added force applied to second trailer.

Bionic Man makes a good point, as to why the added stress to second trailer attachment. My factory receiver on back of FW, like many, states 300 hitch wt, 3,000 trailer wt. Mine is well designed, heavy steel tubing, frame rail to rail, and to look, you'd say it would handle much more than the CYA specs.

When you amplify that 300 lbs, with the whip/bounce, up/down action of a dip in the road, going over a bridge, anything that feels like a speed bump, the stress of 300 lbs dead weight is much higher. It is the same reason many lose their bicycles mounted on the rear.

Anyway glad Cummins12V98 had a safe trip! Yes, just having a co-pilot to talk with, to keep you awake/alert is helpful, when towing long distance.

Jerry


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Wow, those aren’t cheap trailers.
Of course, you’re aware that being on the back of a recreational B train beats the heck out of a trailer, but I would still expect a trailer of that price range to be able to handle it, indefinitely.


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ksss wrote:

The upside would have been it would have made upgrading to an Indian a little easier...


My friend that is going to help rebuild the trailer has a 17 Darkhorse Chieftain that is VERY nice!

I will say I am more than impressed with my 09 FLHTCU ElectraClassic UltraGlide.

My two best friends came down to SoCal to visit and ride, ride, and ride some more earlier this month!!!

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Very nice!


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

ksss wrote:

The upside would have been it would have made upgrading to an Indian a little easier...


My friend that is going to help rebuild the trailer has a 17 Darkhorse Chieftain that is VERY nice!

I will say I am more than impressed with my 09 FLHTCU ElectraClassic UltraGlide.

My two best friends came down to SoCal to visit and ride, ride, and ride some more earlier this month!!!

[image]


Very nice!


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We had a great time.

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ksss wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

ksss wrote:

The upside would have been it would have made upgrading to an Indian a little easier...


My friend that is going to help rebuild the trailer has a 17 Darkhorse Chieftain that is VERY nice!

I will say I am more than impressed with my 09 FLHTCU ElectraClassic UltraGlide.

My two best friends came down to SoCal to visit and ride, ride, and ride some more earlier this month!!!

[image]


Very nice!


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X3 ... I've been looking at a new Indian. I just don't know if they are $40,000 nice.


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