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Posted: 04/26/22 04:27pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

midnightsadie wrote:

seems to me it would take the stress off nuts an bolts if it was sitting on blocks.jack used for loading unloading.


You're correct, and any questionable setup (old camper, potential rot, poor quality, etc), I'd agree 100%.
I started out supporting our AF camper the first year, thought it was needed. Then as I noticed more campers, either being stored or in use off the truck, without supports, my means and methods get less involved, and the second one we bought was an 03 model (wood frame), sitting on jacks only for who knows how long, and continued to including being used to camp, off the truck just on jacks (lowered down) for another half dozen years.
I can recommend it being ok for AF camper in good condition, but qualify it with at your own risk for other campers/conditions/scenarios.


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β€œ Our 2013 AF811 has spent all its 5-6 month winters on it’s jacks. On asphalt. No issues, and no other supports.”

Sorry for being overly cautious with a high dollar purchase, Slymer.


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BurbMan wrote:

I always stored ours on a pair of 2x8 planks on top of cement blocks, so it sat like it did in the truck. Yes, the jacks are designed to support the camper, and we camped in it several times off the truck with it sitting on the jacks.

However, if you look at the length of the jacks they apply a LOT of leverage to the mounting points, and every time you wiggle something it works to make it looser. I depend on my jacks when I need them, why stress them when I don't?

There is certianly nothing wrong with how you are storing the camper, but in my mind putting on solid footing is better.


I agree and All great points! We have camped off the truck at least 300 times and we have never had a single issue. Of course a few years we had the stable-lift and that was even nicer. I do agree with your points though.

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My TC has been unsupported almost all of the time it's off the truck for the past 16 years. However, I did support it on my property while we were having some remodeling done. It was easy enough to do it. I used jacks like these with a board on top. for each end. It did help the stability.

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I think the more likely problem is the jacks sinking if not on asphalt or concrete. Do make sure you put something under the jacks to increase the surface area of the feet. I usually use 1 ft squares of a stall mat although plywood would work as well.


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Posted: 04/26/22 08:22pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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Mine rests on cinder blocks when its not on the truck.
I don't have a good reason why other than I don't like it being stored on the jacks alone.


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BurbMan wrote:

JimK-NY wrote:

I have never heard of a jack failing or any major issue....


Then you haven't read this thread.


I read it. It is about a failure to properly rebuild an old camper.

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Anybody remember the plywood Xs we used under water beds? Cut 1 sheet of 3/4 into 2 X 4 pieces, then notch in center of each. Another sheet on top, and maybe 3rd on the on the floor, would hold up couple feet above floor. If setting on pavement or even leveled gravel, the sheet on bottom would not need to by as thick, just hold the edge of other sheets out of water.
And for somebody that wanted to unload and use camper in a site, could double the sheet on ground. Could be carried under camper, raise it 3 inches.

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I am in favor of additional support when the camper is off the truck for some time. It is not much effort, and it will not hurt.
When the camper is outside, the wind can cause a little sway that may "wear" the jack mounts over time. If the camper has additional support, this can no longer happen.
When the camper is completely sheltered from the elements, it probably doesn't matter much.


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JRscooby wrote:

Anybody remember the plywood Xs we used under water beds? Cut 1 sheet of 3/4 into 2 X 4 pieces, then notch in center of each. Another sheet on top, and maybe 3rd on the on the floor, would hold up couple feet above floor. If setting on pavement or even leveled gravel, the sheet on bottom would not need to by as thick, just hold the edge of other sheets out of water.
And for somebody that wanted to unload and use camper in a site, could double the sheet on ground. Could be carried under camper, raise it 3 inches.


3 sheets of 3/4 ply to gain 1-1/2" over the plywood X method? Lol
PS 3/4" x 3 = 2-1/4", not 3"
But on a practical note, when I first bought a TC, I thought that was a nifty idea. (The X, not the extra 130lbs of 2 more sheets of plywood on top of that)
And then I quickly found out that I just cut up a good sheet of plywood and made it useless. As the X ONLY works if the ground it's unloaded on is level, firm and flat.

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BurbMan wrote:

JimK-NY wrote:

I have never heard of a jack failing or any major issue....


Then you haven't read this thread.


Not a fair comparison by any stretch. That camper was not designed for corner jacks, they were not properly mounted, the camper was old and the wood not in the best shape, and the ground was uneven and soft.

An AF1150 comes from the factory with four corner jacks, and they don't want warranty claims, so they will make sure the jacks are well mounted.

Now if it lets you sleep better at night, put some support under the camper.


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