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Reisender wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

Reisender wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

When using a EV to tow an RV, it only works if you are not going very far, AND there is a plug in available when camped.

Forget about boondocking.
I think many people at least want the capability of being able to do that on occasion.


I don’t know. We have been out 4 times this year. All were dry camping. No services. All within a couple hours. But nothing stopping us from going further. We are headed for Quebec from BC. An 8 week 11000 kilometre round trip tour.
I used to dog trial with a fella that camped on a cot.... No tent or shelter of any kind. Most of the time he seemed real happy.
And then there are people towing with totally inadaquete lashups....You see them on the highway with their TT dancing all over the road... They seem happy as well.
I guess there is no accounting for expectation levels.


Heh Heh [emoticon] Not sure what any of that means but keep on writing the story to suit your narrative. Meantime we'll keep going to places like these we have been to this year already. And we'll sign off there as we'll be on the road for a few days. Time to go camping.

Cheers, safe travels and good health.

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Reisender wrote:

I don’t know. We have been out 4 times this year. Al were dry camping. No services. All within a couple hours. But nothing stopping us from going further. We are headed for Quebec from BC. An 8 week 11000 kilometre round trip tour.


Hi,

I hope you will keep a log book with charge locations, costs and times.


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Just a note. Diesel fuel in East coast communities, in Canada, hit a high of $7.28 per US gallon in USD.

For those of us that use liters $1.92 per liter (USD).

Add that to starting truckers for Walmart (USA) getting paid between 94 and 110 THOUSAND dollars.

Don't tell me Electric power will rival that price, anytime soon.

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Looks like it's on the Ford Rouge plant. Sure hope Ford knows what it's doing in these unstable times and questionable motives.

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Electric vehicle sales were at a record level both in California and nationally, according to numbers released by the California Energy Commission and interpreted by the electric vehicle advocacy organization Veloz this past week.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/113........tm_term=0_7e18d5fd93-6fb567015a-54660497

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pianotuna wrote:

Electric vehicle sales were at a record level both in California and nationally, according to numbers released by the California Energy Commission and interpreted by the electric vehicle advocacy organization Veloz this past week.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/113........tm_term=0_7e18d5fd93-6fb567015a-54660497


I could care less what goes on in California as this is no longer the state to follow or model anything from.

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FishOnOne,

What part of the word "nationally" do you not understand?

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I could care less what goes on in California as this is no longer the state to follow or model anything from.
Says the guy from TX where the largest factory in the world will be ramping up EV production this year.

What a great contrast as no Tesla can be sold off the factory lot or store in TX like we do for all other products.


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and it's "I couldn't care less...."

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Reisender wrote:

Meh. We have been hearing that for 7 years since we switched to EV’s. Back then it was 4 times cheaper to drive electric than gas. Now it’s 6 times cheaper.

BC hydro is applying to implement TOU or time of use billing. If they are successful it will be 12 times cheaper to drive electric than gas. Hope they are successful. [emoticon].


When EV's made up 0.01% of the vehicle fleet, taxes were largely ignored. The political will was to encourage them and they made up such a small percentage of the fleet as to have no significant impact on highway funds. As they hit 1-2% and there is the potential for significant growth, people are taking notice, so yes, you should expect to eventually see a tax roughly equivalent to gas taxes. Historically, taxes have made up around 25% of gas prices, so not insignificant.

As far as "fueling" costs, depends greatly on the local electrical rates:
- Middle America: Electricity might be $0.10/kwh and at 0.3kwh/mile, that's around 3cents/mile for EV. A 50mpg car paying $3/gal is about 6c/gal. So double...no where close to 4-12 times as much unless they are artificially subsidizing electricity.
- California: Electricity might be $0.27/kwh and gas $4/gal...result is 8.1cents/mile EV vs 8.0cents/mile gas

Of course, this is assuming home charging. Paid public charging stations are much more expensive. (free charging is fading away as the fleet moves away from being a fraction of 1% of the fleet)


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