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ccjack

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I am new to RVing and have a question on wi-fi. Our new TT came with a Winegard air 360+. My understanding is it is a HD TV antenna but also has wi-fi router capability. We would need to purchase an additional gaetway router that installs inside the RV for $300. My question is what does this do? The air360+ pulls a wifi signal from the campground (as an example - the campground would provide log in info?) and then the $300 router serves as a booster for the area around our individual TT? Can't you just use the campground wifi without a router?

This is unrelated to any co-ax cable connectors on the outside of the TT, correct? The Winegard is not connected to any coax cable in the TT correct?

I am a bit confused as to what we should buy or not.

thanks.

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Don’t depend on campground WiFi. Rarely have adequate bandwidth. If reliable, fast Internet is important to you, plan accordingly.


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Typically a higher amplified antenna will give better results.

Typically there is no password or a single password for everyone. Translation: "We also have free WiFi." Bandwidth, security and speed are frequently marginal.


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I could be way off here but I have the "ToGo" Wi-Fi booster( similar to yours). I believe your Winegard is a booster in that it helps with any Wi-Fi signal but it's also an access point that accepts a SIM card too. I'm not sure who Winegard is associated with but you can buy data plans through them.

Here again....I could be confusing this with something else!


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Posted: 04/30/22 03:54pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ccjack wrote:

I am new to RVing and have a question on wi-fi. Our new TT came with a Winegard air 360+. My understanding is it is a HD TV antenna but also has wi-fi router capability. We would need to purchase an additional gaetway router that installs inside the RV for $300. My question is what does this do? The air360+ pulls a wifi signal from the campground (as an example - the campground would provide log in info?) and then the $300 router serves as a booster for the area around our individual TT? Can't you just use the campground wifi without a router?

This is unrelated to any co-ax cable connectors on the outside of the TT, correct? The Winegard is not connected to any coax cable in the TT correct?

I am a bit confused as to what we should buy or not.

thanks.


When in doubt, read the manual..

FOUND HERE

Right on the very first page it says..

"WINEGARD AIR OMNIDIRECTIONAL TV/FM ANTENNA + WIFI + 4G EXTENDER*

*WiFi & 4G functionality requires Winegard Model AR-360B 360+ Gateway (GW-1000) sold separately"


Page 4 states..

"Winegard recommends installing the Gateway directly under the Air 360 + . Once the Air 360 + has been installed, there are two requirements to finding a location on the RV ceiling for installation: +12VDC must be present, and the three WiFi/4G antenna cables from the Air 360 + must be able to reach the connection points on the Gateway router."

Additionally, you might wish to read the Gateway GW-1000 manual for more details on setup and operation..

FOUND HERE

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Gdetrailer wrote:

ccjack wrote:

I am new to RVing and have a question on wi-fi. Our new TT came with a Winegard air 360+. My understanding is it is a HD TV antenna but also has wi-fi router capability. We would need to purchase an additional gaetway router that installs inside the RV for $300. My question is what does this do? The air360+ pulls a wifi signal from the campground (as an example - the campground would provide log in info?) and then the $300 router serves as a booster for the area around our individual TT? Can't you just use the campground wifi without a router?

This is unrelated to any co-ax cable connectors on the outside of the TT, correct? The Winegard is not connected to any coax cable in the TT correct?

I am a bit confused as to what we should buy or not.

thanks.


When in doubt, read the manual..

FOUND HERE

Right on the very first page it says..

"WINEGARD AIR OMNIDIRECTIONAL TV/FM ANTENNA + WIFI + 4G EXTENDER*

*WiFi & 4G functionality requires Winegard Model AR-360B 360+ Gateway (GW-1000) sold separately"


Page 4 states..

"Winegard recommends installing the Gateway directly under the Air 360 + . Once the Air 360 + has been installed, there are two requirements to finding a location on the RV ceiling for installation: +12VDC must be present, and the three WiFi/4G antenna cables from the Air 360 + must be able to reach the connection points on the Gateway router."

Additionally, you might wish to read the Gateway GW-1000 manual for more details on setup and operation..

FOUND HERE


Add to all that the Winegard 360+ totally sucks as a HDTV antenna unless you're basically parked within 10 miles of the broadcast point. Its a piece of junk.


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While you will hear bad comments about the Winegard omni directional TV antenna, that's not a Winegard problem. Omni directional antennas are best described as being equally bad in all directions.

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I too agree the dome antennas are not that great for TV reception

Wi-Fi.. This can act as a "Wi-Fi Extender" basically the same as what I used.. Listening to the park's wi-fi and "extending" it into your RV.

I had either a linksys WGA54G or a Umbquiti Loco M wi-fi "Adapter" I put atop a flag pole then hooked the cat-5 side to a Router inside the RV This is basically the same concept.

It can also act like a Cellular Hot Spot. and being up on the roof. generally has better reception that one inside the RV Generally.

I know one person who put his "My-Fi" box atop a flag pole for added range.. Worked too.


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Add to all that the Winegard 360+ totally sucks as a HDTV antenna unless you're basically parked within 10 miles of the broadcast point. Its a piece of junk.


Not the fault of the antenna, after all it is a "omnidirection" TV antenna so it doesn't need to be rotated.

This comes at a cost of no "gain" and is the benchmark that all antennas are compared to.

Omni direction antenna radiates or receives in a circular pattern with relatively the same strength in all directions.

Wingard Sesars antennas are a "dipole" type of antenna, with dipoles you get less gain on the sides but the front and back have additional gain which helps bring in distant stations better with the downside of needing to rotate the antenna.

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Pix on right is pattern of an omnidirectional antenna.

Pix on left is a dipole antenna pattern..

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ccjack wrote:

I am new to RVing and have a question on wi-fi. Our new TT came with a Winegard air 360+. My understanding is it is a HD TV antenna but also has wi-fi router capability. We would need to purchase an additional gaetway router that installs inside the RV for $300. My question is what does this do? The air360+ pulls a wifi signal from the campground (as an example - the campground would provide log in info?) and then the $300 router serves as a booster for the area around our individual TT? Can't you just use the campground wifi without a router?

This is unrelated to any co-ax cable connectors on the outside of the TT, correct? The Winegard is not connected to any coax cable in the TT correct?

I am a bit confused as to what we should buy or not.

thanks.


We have the Air360+ and the Gateway modem. The Gateway unit adds additional antennas for both wifi and cellular signals. Our experience is that:

- TV reception is pretty good but do not expect it to compete with directional antennas.

- WiFi is able to pull in signals our iPhones can not but most campground wifi isn’t very good.

- We have been impressed with the ability to grab cell signals. As an example, we were at a harvest host farm who claimed they had not been able to get cell service but we were able to get AT&T. This has repeatedly been our experience. I attribute it to the multiple antennas and the rooftop location. Note that I believe the Gateway is only a cat4 modem so it is never supper fast. WiFi Ranger sells their Osprey unit to go with the Air360+ which can be obtained as cat6 or cat12 units so they may be much faster though I don’t know if the Osprey adds antennas like the Gateway does.

Overall we have been pleased with the unit and it has given us data in a wide variety of place our phones have not been able to.

* This post was edited 05/06/22 07:12am by brholt *

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