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GrandpaKip

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Posted: 05/19/22 07:31am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Grit dog wrote:

GrandpaKip wrote:

I have same truck, same type trailer.
I wouldn’t take a drive without WDH.
I use an Andersen hitch, absolutely perfect drive.
Can you do it? Sure. Will you make it home? More than likely. I see people doing stupid stuff with trailers all the time.
Me? I’m careful and try to eliminate stupidity from my life because I like my life.


More than likely? Yup, I’d say…I mean unless the truck breaks down or gets carried away by a tornado or something else totally unrelated to the trailer…

You folks will probably keep the OP up at night with your overtly false/paranoid/ false statements.

Without WDH, the front of my truck goes up almost 2 inches and the rear goes down 3.
The truck isn’t level and the trailer isn’t either. But you think this is OK.
I have 12% on the tongue, 600 pounds.
With WDH, truck is level and trailer is slightly nose down. As it should be.
Nothing I said was false or paranoid. Just common sense.
Advice like yours could also cause someone to have an uncomfortable ride.
Just because something can be done doesn’t always mean it should.
Like I said before, I see people doing stupid stuff with trailers all the time.


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Ok well I have just a plain shank with a 2 inch drop an 5/16 ball. I was waiting to buy WDH because I thought it has to be specific to which ever camper I buy? I found one at harbor freights a hail master10,000 trailer weight. 1,000 max tongue weight. Class 3 and 4 hitches. I said I was getting that exact jayco camper but there is a chance we pick another today ( dealer has 3 all about same size and weight) thank you guys though.

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I've been following this post and have hesitated from replying, but here it goes... [emoticon]

I would tow the combo that the OP is talking about.. But, that's me..

Some of his other comments would lead me to believe that he really has no experience with towing anything or even knowing what to expect or not expect while tackling such a job on the first go. Biggest thing besides the whole 'hitch' thing is to make sure the truck has an integrated brake controller, or has the ability to wire an aftermarket one up and that it works! I would not tow it without functioning trailer brakes.

But, we all have had to take that first jump in the deep end and you sink or swim. How 'deep' the water is makes a difference too of course.

In the end, the OP is either scared to death or just going to do it and be fine..

Learning to do stuff via the internet or youtube is a great thing.. I've used those resources many times for tasks I was not familiar with.

Best of luck to the OP whatever choice is made. Mitch
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I did install an aftermarket brake controller. I’m taking wife an kiddo with me is why I am so paranoid. (Wife is wanting travel trailer)…

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You should be commended for wanting to protect your family as much as possible. It is wise to err on the side of caution rather than taking the let her rip attitude.
Just plan ahead with the traffic and keep your speed down. Camping is a wonderful pastime and enhances family life. You will learn to relax as you gain more experience. Good luck in your travels and Remember getting there is part of the adventure.

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Seems you are GTG, trailer brakes very important! IDK, about tha HF WDH? All WDHs are not equal. While you may not need the super expensive top of the line, a good quality one, is normally a better choice.

Happy wife, important too!!

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This past weekend I made three trips to the landscape place, where each time I picked up a ton of top soil with my 1/2 ton truck. Don't tell the weight police. Or many that respond to posts similar to this one.

My personal opinion is....

While the truck is more than capable of making this two hour trip, even while improperly set up, I don't believe the O.P. is capable of making such a trip.

A bit of tail dragging, while sitting up to see over the hood, is standard pickup usage.

A tad of trailer wiggle would be expected from a seasoned tower.

The O.P. does not sound as if he has any trailering experience. That could make for a white knuckles drive.

Suggestion for the O.P.....

Have the dealer install the WDH.

Have them explain hook up and unhooking.

Immediately after leaving dealer, find a large parking lot or deserted street. Go about 30 mph and wiggle the wheel hard left and right. Hit the brakes hard a couple of times. Give yourself some ideas of how the trailer responds...and how it effects your truck.

It's easy for for experienced towers to say "go for it". However, someone new to towing should seek professional set-up. With as much explanation of the set-up process as possible.

Then cautiously drive home.

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"and exceed the hitch capacity..."

Will likely NOT exceed hitch capacity. Mine is 970 pounds and OP's is likely more since his payload limit is more than mine.


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GrandpaKip wrote:


Without WDH, the front of my truck goes up almost 2 inches and the rear goes down 3.
The truck isn’t level and the trailer isn’t either. But you think this is OK.
I have 12% on the tongue, 600 pounds.
With WDH, truck is level and trailer is slightly nose down. As it should be.
Nothing I said was false or paranoid. Just common sense.
Advice like yours could also cause someone to have an uncomfortable ride.
Just because something can be done doesn’t always mean it should.
Like I said before, I see people doing stupid stuff with trailers all the time.


You need to rethink your truck if 600 lbs sets the front up 2" and the rear down by 3". Even 1/2 ton trucks from the 1960's were able to support 600 lbs in the bed without sagging that much. Heck my Dad even had a 1970 F100 which he used a full size TC in it and it didn't kill anyone or cause any accidents..

To me, what you are doing is being "stupid" yourself by failing to realize that your truck is not capable and to further the stupidity running 12% TW! You SHOULD be targeting for 15% for the most stable tow.

The weakest truck I have towed with was a 97 "light duty" F250 which was basically a "heavy half" based on a F150 frame and chassis. I towed a 7,000 GVWR 20ft TT with that without WD, trailer towed straight and true and rear drop was about 2" and front raised less than 1"..

That 97 truck pales in comparison to any of the real 250 Super Duties that I have had and the ones I still own where front raise is barely detectable and rear sag is less than 1" with a 26ft 7,000 GVWR trailer without WD..

Just towed a 93 35' park model trailer for my FIL almost 100 miles with my 2020 F250, he was shocked that the truck barely dropped..

Get the right tool for the job and one doesn't always need aftermarket bandaids..

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Johnsonty131 wrote:

Payload of my truck is 1826.
Towing capacity is 9400
Trailer is hitch 536
Dry weight 4800
Gross is 6000

I don’t have a weight distribution hitch yet just a plain 2 5/6 ball. Think I can get it home from a 2 hour drive?
Any reviews on this trailer also appreciated


what is the dead weight hitch rating on the truck? In many/most cases the max hitch load for dead weight (non WD) is lower, often significantly lower than WD rating. First thing is to make sure your not exceeding the hitch limit.


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