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Have had three trailers and multiple tow vehicles over the years. Have always required a WDH.

New truck (Sierra 2500) and hooked up the, fairly small, trailer for the first time to this truck.

Pre and post measurements at the front and rear wheel wells. Difference at the front is 7/16th inch higher and rear is 3/4 inch lower.

Have not done any weigh scale, but presumably the difference in height(s) has some correlation to the effect of the weight on the truck.

So, is the difference in heights minimal enough that a WDH is unnecessary or should the set-up be weighed?

And, does a WDH provide any other benefit, other than distributing the weight? As I am so used to having a WDH hooked up, it would seem strange not to have one.

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A WDH is not needed in some cases, and from your description, you likely don't need one. However, with some trailers the added benefit is sway control.

Give it a tow without, see how it works with new truck.

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marpel wrote:

Have had three trailers and multiple tow vehicles over the years. Have always required a WDH.

New truck (Sierra 2500) and hooked up the, fairly small, trailer for the first time to this truck.

Pre and post measurements at the front and rear wheel wells. Difference at the front is 7/16th inch higher and rear is 3/4 inch lower.

Have not done any weigh scale, but presumably the difference in height(s) has some correlation to the effect of the weight on the truck.

So, is the difference in heights minimal enough that a WDH is unnecessary or should the set-up be weighed?

And, does a WDH provide any other benefit, other than distributing the weight? As I am so used to having a WDH hooked up, it would seem strange not to have one.

Marv


My truck has both the heavy duty payload Pgk and trailer tow Pkg. My front wheel well before and after difference was 1/2". Following the WDH instructions brought the measurement back to 87%. As mentioned the added benefit is the sway control.

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Look it up in the owners manual, it says something to the effect of a wdh is not needed towing 5000lbs or under. At least thats in my chevy book. Yours should be the same. I had my hitch allready and put it on, I just didnt set the tension on it all the way. As stated above its more for sway controll for me then weight distribution.


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marpel wrote:

As I am so used to having a WDH hooked up, it would seem strange not to have one.

Marv


This^ is the only issue with not running one. That empty feeling that RVers apparently get in the pit of their stomach when they don't see the wdh security blanket in place....
No, you don't need a wdh. If the trailer tows like carp, you may want sway control (another security blanket that is likely not needed in many/most setups as well).

If it helps ease your mind, I've yet to use a wdh on any of the 100s of different trailers I've pulled over the last 30+ years. Including our current RV which is rolling down the road at 33' long, something over 10klbs (never weighed it) and hitched up, requires 30-40psi in the bags to level the truck back up. Tows yust fine.

However the correct answer is the 3/4" sag in your suspension means nothing. That's supposed to happen when you put a little weight in/on the back of the truck. Don't ask us. Take it for a drive and see if you're happy, not happy or freaked out about how it tows.


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With a solid 15% of tongue weight I'll wager a WDH is unnecessary. My Chevy book too, SJM.


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I'll just leave this here for all the 500/5000 folks...
Note this is from a 2019 GM truck owners manual, so ymmv...

Vehicle Series Hitch Type
Maximum Tongue
Weight
1500 Weight-Carrying or
Weight-Distributing
567 kg (1,250 lb)
2500/3500
Standard Box
Weight-Carrying or
Weight-Distributing
680 kg (1,500 lb)
2500/
3500 Long Box
Weight-Carrying or
Weight-Distributing
907 kg (2,000 lb)


PS, the hitches on a 2500 and 3500 from the factory are the same, 1500tw vs 2000tw is likely due to GVWR restrictions as this is for gassers which didn't get the GM 2500 "bump" in gvwr.



Or the cliffs notes. 500lbs tw is NOWHERE near needing a wdh to save the hitch.
Not even on a newer half ton.

PPS, 5000lbs is the bumper ball limit.

* This post was edited 05/24/22 02:02pm by Grit dog *

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Grit dog wrote:

Or the cliffs notes. 500lbs tw is NOWHERE near needing a wdh to save the hitch.
Not even on a newer half ton.

PPS, 5000lbs is the bumper ball limit.


Ford F-150 standard 2” hitch has the non WDH 500/5000 limit on a sticker and in the Owner’s Manual and Towing Guide. Yes, it’s also the bumper hole tow limit.


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Boomerweps wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

Or the cliffs notes. 500lbs tw is NOWHERE near needing a wdh to save the hitch.
Not even on a newer half ton.

PPS, 5000lbs is the bumper ball limit.


Ford F-150 standard 2” hitch has the non WDH 500/5000 limit on a sticker and in the Owner’s Manual and Towing Guide. Yes, it’s also the bumper hole tow limit.


Well that’s probably just due to the fact that it’s a Ford…lol
But seriously, Im not sure what your point is. I mean if my aunt had balls, she’d be my uncle. And I thought this thread/question was aboot a 3/4 ton GM, which might not be the same as a half ton Ford. Just going out on a limb with that one…
Nice that Ford still puts stickers on their hitches. Haven’t had a new truck in years that had a sticker for hitch rating on the hitch or anywhere near it.

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Thanks for the replies.

Marv

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