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MAACO won't paint a Smart car for $1000 around here. Its work but the Zep deal will make it shine!

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In the boating world we say that a boat can be any colour, as long as it is white.

Dark coloured gelcoat does not do well with sun. Once it has been let go it takes alot of work to bring it back. It also needs to be done much more frequently to keep it looking good.

Looking at your current state it is not as bad as when you started. A good going over with a cleaner wax, such as 3M cleaner wax, followed by the Meguires Flagship wax again should restore to the condition of your first highly successful efforts.

I have had saltwater kept boats since 1981. A tough environment to be in. There are many great products out there these days but time & sun will always destroy them without regular attention.


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I decided to go with the floor polish. The ceramic coating was going to be pretty prohibiting considering you cannot apply in the sun and it cannot get wet all at for at least the first 24 hours, not even morning dew.

The floor polish looks good from far but far from good. And I am being picky for sure, its nothing I am going to remove unless I start having issues. My problem was the mop I got seemed almost soapy and I was having to work out the bubbles, maybe it was whatever they treat them with to make them stay moist? Not really sure. If it keeps it looking good I will keep using it. If you have a white RV maybe thing twice since it does apparently get dirty and need to be stripped occasionally, but from the videos I have washed it cleans off easy enough and comes out looking great with re-application. In my case I am only doing my front cap, but if things look good in a year or so I will likely reconsider and make sure my mop head is nice a clean. Honestly I think a microfiber would do a much better job or even shooting it with a HVLP! Definitely research that before you do it, I have not at all.


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Veebyes wrote:

In the boating world we say that a boat can be any colour, as long as it is white.

Dark coloured gelcoat does not do well with sun. Once it has been let go it takes alot of work to bring it back. It also needs to be done much more frequently to keep it looking good.

Looking at your current state it is not as bad as when you started. A good going over with a cleaner wax, such as 3M cleaner wax, followed by the Meguires Flagship wax again should restore to the condition of your first highly successful efforts.

I have had saltwater kept boats since 1981. A tough environment to be in. There are many great products out there these days but time & sun will always destroy them without regular attention.


I appreciate the advice, but the second time around took a surprising amount of work to get it looking good, felt like should have stripped it first since the previous wax was gumming up my pads. I ended up going to the full rotary buffer and even then I was struggling. I am not about to put the same product on it that never went through a full NorCal summer and looked terrible in 6 months. Maybe I got a bad batch? I dont know, but you know how the saying goes, fool me once...

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arcsum68 wrote:

Veebyes wrote:

In the boating world we say that a boat can be any colour, as long as it is white.

Dark coloured gelcoat does not do well with sun. Once it has been let go it takes alot of work to bring it back. It also needs to be done much more frequently to keep it looking good.

Looking at your current state it is not as bad as when you started. A good going over with a cleaner wax, such as 3M cleaner wax, followed by the Meguires Flagship wax again should restore to the condition of your first highly successful efforts.

I have had saltwater kept boats since 1981. A tough environment to be in. There are many great products out there these days but time & sun will always destroy them without regular attention.


I appreciate the advice, but the second time around took a surprising amount of work to get it looking good, felt like should have stripped it first since the previous wax was gumming up my pads. I ended up going to the full rotary buffer and even then I was struggling. I am not about to put the same product on it that never went through a full NorCal summer and looked terrible in 6 months. Maybe I got a bad batch? I dont know, but you know how the saying goes, fool me once...


The Flagship is most definitely not a cleaner wax. Applied over chalking or a degraded surface is going to leave a less than clear deep shine.

My 5er is a late 2007. It is indoor stored in the winter but is outdoors & traveling about 160 days each year. That is an awful lot of bugs getting smashed into the front cap.

After all these years & miles I can't say that the front cap looks new when I am finished with it, using the 3M marine cleaner wax followed right behind with the Flagship, but it looks darned close to new.

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I appreciate the advice, but the second time around took a surprising amount of work to get it looking good, felt like should have stripped it first since the previous wax was gumming up my pads. I ended up going to the full rotary buffer and even then I was struggling. .....


I guess you did it your way and paid no attention to the advice of others.

First, good surface prep is an absolute necessity. You need to remove the old grime, any oxidation and certainly all of the old paste wax.

Second, using a mop to apply the Zep was a mistake. The best approach is to use a cloth dampened in Zep and apply thin coats. It should take several. Trying to slop on heavy coats with a mob is likely to result in all sorts of problems including drips, swirls, runs.

Lastly, if correctly applied, it is not necessary or advisable to use a buffer. Several thin coats of Zep should give you an even finish with a decent lustrous shine that will last for years.

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