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Grit dog

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Posted: 06/13/22 09:11am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ford truck guy wrote:

well......

8 pages of normal RV.Net truck capability arguments and the original OP ( rarin'2go ) was a 1 and done poster on THIS thread.....

I will say that is is/was interesting reading all the response.. what did I learn??

Grit know a TON about trucks and thier capibilities, as do a lot of others..
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Grit dog wrote:

ford truck guy wrote:

well......

8 pages of normal RV.Net truck capability arguments and the original OP ( rarin'2go ) was a 1 and done poster on THIS thread.....

I will say that is is/was interesting reading all the response.. what did I learn??

Grit know a TON about trucks and thier capibilities, as do a lot of others..
Cummins HATES IPA
and a Toyota can tow a space shuttle !


Add Grit LIKES IPA to your list of takeaways! Not the trying to be cool with your hipster buds, stifle the bitter beer face like. I just like 'em!
High octane beer! What's not to like??


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Considering the OP has been registered since 2004.has a whopping 51 posts and replies......
Chances of getting a reply from home is pretty small.
If he finds a truck with 4500 lbs of payload, he should be fine, no matter if badge a 15, 25, 35 or.....


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But if the numbers don't matter, then why do the numbers on the tires matter?

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Asking for a friend.


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mkirsch wrote:

But if the numbers don't matter, then why do the numbers on the tires matter?

Asking for a friend.


Frankly, they don't. Not to a tee anyway. I really don't like going here, as enough folks on rvnet get offended and head for their safe space when I talk about axle ratings...
But, similarly, how much factor of safety is cooked into tire weight ratings?
Guys like capriracer will say 0. "Tires are tested to max rated load, pressure and temperature and no more." Not sayin he aint right.

But take a smidge of gearhead, pushing the limits and hold some my beer type activities that involve using tires above their rated loads with what I understand about basic corporate liability, and I'll tell you that there ain't a big name tire out there that won't run a fair bit more than it's rated load and relatively safely. How much more, idk.
BUT, do you think that a mfg with as deep pf pockets as (fill in the blank) would make tires, especially truck tires that they know are going to get used and abused by folks like me and other who do far more stupid human tricks than I'm comfortable with, that will blow out at 5lbs, 50lb or even 500lbs over load?
Doubt it. Otherwise there would be a string of lawsuit cases against the mfgs so long it wraps around the block and down the street.

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Exactly and is more of OPs waiting for what they want to hear...

Selective adherence to ratings...even the most anti-rating advisors revere some ratings



mkirsch wrote:

But if the numbers don't matter, then why do the numbers on the tires matter?

Asking for a friend.



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BenK wrote:

Exactly and is more of OPs waiting for what they want to hear...

Selective adherence to ratings...even the most anti-rating advisors revere some ratings




Well, as I stated before, it depends on what is limiting the rating. If it is actually hard parts limiting the rating then I would be more inclined to abide by them. If it is half a century old laws and regulations(like truck class GVWR limits) forcing the limits then I am less inclined to abide by them and then refer to the limits of the hard parts. If I am ignorant to what the limiting factor is or I am not 100% sure then I generally abide by the rating and treat it like a hard part limitation.


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Tire ratings / axle ratings are just like Over Head Crane ratings..

They are rated to a certain rating with a safety factor on top of that.. They POST the rate based on every day usage.. Most people will see that they can carry XXX amount of weight and go full Hog till they cant..

I can assure you, If they rated our overhead cranes to 15 ton instead of 10 ton, we would be lifting 15T every day, all day... in a nut shell - There is a safety factor built into EVERYTHING with a MAX capacity.. just how much = ??

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I might even know said safety rating.
My bobcat for example, lift capacity is 1/2 the tip load.manufacture gives me spec for how where and when the rear wheels lift off the ground. Said load ratings have been spot on.
The tires on it, same size ply rating as one of my past 2500's. But 4500 lbs per tire, instead of 3000....hmmm....look in tire specs, my loader tires are rated for 3000 lbs if driven over 25 mph. Meanwhile, my LT tires are rated at 4500 lbs, if kept at speeds under 25 mph.
Like ALL things great and small, in many cases, one can have multiple ratings for the same item. How it's used or speed can make for multiple ratings.

Marty

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