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Grit dog wrote:

You guys are too funny!
Behemoth trucks? Bigger than 10-15 years ago?
Lol.



Nobody seems to be bitting Grit ,that's twice you attempted to get a rise out of someone. [emoticon]

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cummins2014 wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

You guys are too funny!
Behemoth trucks? Bigger than 10-15 years ago?
Lol.



Nobody seems to be bitting Grit ,that's twice you attempted to get a rise out of someone. [emoticon]

Well, it’s pretty hot outside in most places today. Even here on the coast.
Fishin is usually pretty slow in this weather, but maybe someone will bite!


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Grit dog wrote:

You guys are too funny!
Behemoth trucks? Bigger than 10-15 years ago?
Lol.



Nobody seems to be bitting Grit ,that's twice you attempted to get a rise out of someone. [emoticon]


Not quite a bite, but I'll jump in. For as long as I can remember...and that goes back to the late '60's, Fords have "sat higher" than a comparable Chevy. In my driveway, I have a 2009 MY Chevy 2500, CC, 6.XX' bed, 4WD....my math says that is 13-14 years ago depending on how one counts model years. I also have a 2019 F250, CC, 6.XX' bed, 4WD, etc...a 3 year old vehicle. Other than the F250 "sitting higher" (and the older truck showing it's use-it-for-everything 150k more miles history), these trucks are the same general size and appearance. They fit in the same spots on my driveway, at my work, and at my wife's work.

Compare either of these to my buddy's restored '65 "Full size" Ford and the 2009 Chevy or the 2019 F250 are both obviously larger..but surprisingly not significantly larger than my other buddy's '6X (not sure of the year) restored International Harvester CC pickup.

I think the "behemoth trucks" of today are likely the pavement queen 150's and 1500's with all sorts of upsized components that, in all likelihood, will never see a bog, field, or rocky hill.


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Grit dog wrote:

cummins2014 wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

You guys are too funny!
Behemoth trucks? Bigger than 10-15 years ago?
Lol.



Nobody seems to be bitting Grit ,that's twice you attempted to get a rise out of someone. [emoticon]

Well, it’s pretty hot outside in most places today. Even here on the coast.
Fishin is usually pretty slow in this weather, but maybe someone will bite!


It’s been great weather here in SW Montana, and the bites been great ??

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cummins2014 wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

You guys are too funny!
Behemoth trucks? Bigger than 10-15 years ago?
Lol.



Nobody seems to be bitting Grit ,that's twice you attempted to get a rise out of someone. [emoticon]


Not quite a bite, but I'll jump in. For as long as I can remember...and that goes back to the late '60's, Fords have "sat higher" than a comparable Chevy. In my driveway, I have a 2009 MY Chevy 2500, CC, 6.XX' bed, 4WD....my math says that is 13-14 years ago depending on how one counts model years. I also have a 2019 F250, CC, 6.XX' bed, 4WD, etc...a 3 year old vehicle. Other than the F250 "sitting higher" (and the older truck showing it's use-it-for-everything 150k more miles history), these trucks are the same general size and appearance. They fit in the same spots on my driveway, at my work, and at my wife's work.

Compare either of these to my buddy's restored '65 "Full size" Ford and the 2009 Chevy or the 2019 F250 are both obviously larger..but surprisingly not significantly larger than my other buddy's '6X (not sure of the year) restored International Harvester CC pickup.

I think the "behemoth trucks" of today are likely the pavement queen 150's and 1500's with all sorts of upsized components that, in all likelihood, will never see a bog, field, or rocky hill.


Yes , owned a couple of those Ford High Boys as we called them .

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I feel for the guys that need a truck now as they will have to pay a premium to not wait.

But if you are patient and do research there are dealers that when the order banks were open were willing to make deals. I've got an F350 on order that I'm getting for 2% below invoice, which is about 6k under MSRP. Only catch is it will end up being a 6-7 month wait, and flying to pick it up. No dealers around me would come off of sticker. For me it will be a $250 flight, $500 in gas, and a night in a hotel, but will still save me $5000, and the truck will be broken in, and ready to tow when I get home. I'll have a fun road trip.


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I'll give the dealers some slack on the over MSRP pricing, I don't like it, but I bet their number of cars sold is half what it normally is, so I can see getting what you can for them.

Also if they sell for MSRP, there are alot of guys that would buy it for that, and flip it for $10k over MSRP the next day. I'm seeing this all over the Super Duty pages. Guys that ordered multiple trucks, and are selling them as soon as they get them for a profit.

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wowens79 wrote:

I'll give the dealers some slack on the over MSRP pricing, I don't like it, but I bet their number of cars sold is half what it normally is, so I can see getting what you can for them.

Also if they sell for MSRP, there are alot of guys that would buy it for that, and flip it for $10k over MSRP the next day. I'm seeing this all over the Super Duty pages. Guys that ordered multiple trucks, and are selling them as soon as they get them for a profit.


Bingo. Hit the nail on the head.

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RetiredRealtorRick wrote:



No, I can't decide what size truck everyone needs, however, the 'full size' truck of 10-15 years ago wasn't near the behemoth that 'full size' trucks are today.



You're showing your age Rick. Why not look up the dimension specs to say a 2022 F250 and compare that to a 1995 or so F250? Make sure to have the comparable cab and bed length. You'll find the dimensions are only different by a couple of inches. Height of bed rails do not count nor does the height of the hood. Now if your comparing a 2022 to a 1949, then you're spot on.


Yes, height of bed rails and height of hood DO count, as they make for a bigger truck, more difficult for some people to maneuver and park, as those measurements affect visibility, especially for a shorter driver. You can't pick & choose which dimensions make a truck bigger and which don't. They ALL come into play. That's like saying the length and width of my house count when calculating the size of it . . . but the height does not. Really? [emoticon]


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Gooma wrote:

Dealers ahve found suckers that are willing to pay over sticker price, soemtimes by a large amount. Why will they lower prices? The days of discounrs of 5K to 10K are gone.


Nope, this will only last as long as the "uneasy truce" between manufacturers holds out.

Eventually someone will blink. They will realize they can grab a huge chunk of market share, if only temporarily, by going back to the way things were.

Since when has any company ever been satisfied with the status quo? You're either growing or you're dying.


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