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B-n-B wrote:

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Was that on the back tire of the trailer? I picked up a 3/8 bolt once had it repaired from the inside with no problems. Interesting it was the rear tire on the trailer that got the bolt.


Yep rear tire on passenger side.


I would bet most road hazard flats on TV/TT or 5th wheel units are rear passenger of trailer. Every time hit, but not picked up by a tire the crown of road will likely push it to right. Most of them just work over to shoulder, never damage a tire. Right side trailer tires are most likely to run on the shoulder. Plus, the tires on trailer tandem are running close together. In the lane or not, most time tire hits bolt or nail, it stands up. All other positions, it will fall back down. But when front trailer stands it up, it don't have much time to fall before the rear hits.

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JRscooby wrote:

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Was that on the back tire of the trailer? I picked up a 3/8 bolt once had it repaired from the inside with no problems. Interesting it was the rear tire on the trailer that got the bolt.


Yep rear tire on passenger side.


I would bet most road hazard flats on TV/TT or 5th wheel units are rear passenger of trailer. Every time hit, but not picked up by a tire the crown of road will likely push it to right. Most of them just work over to shoulder, never damage a tire. Right side trailer tires are most likely to run on the shoulder. Plus, the tires on trailer tandem are running close together. In the lane or not, most time tire hits bolt or nail, it stands up. All other positions, it will fall back down. But when front trailer stands it up, it don't have much time to fall before the rear hits.


I agree with your analysis. Mine was on passenger side. My 5th wheel tires track wider than the TV so the TV may push the bolt closer to the shoulder where the trailer tires do as you described.

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Microlite Mike wrote:

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First trip out in our last camper we picked up a 1/2 inch bolt. Discount patched it up and it worked fine.

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FWIW, if the hole was greater than 1/4" then the "repair" was not in accordance with Industry Standards for a highway tire. Under some exceptions, repairs can be made on punctures up to 3/8" ( LT Steel Cord Body) tires.

Of all the tire stores out there, Discount Tire has had the reputation of playing fast and loose with tire repair guidelines. For years they use "rope type" tire plugs from the outside for almost all there puncture repairs.

Here's a link to the Tire Industry Association and their guide for PROPER tire repair:

Tire Repair/Tire Industry Association


The tire I had repaired was done by BigO about 10 years ago. They did recommend I only use it as a spare until I got home. I still had about 1000 miles to go on that trip. BigO did not have a tire of same size so that was my best choice at the time.

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RCMAN46 wrote:

Microlite Mike wrote:

B-n-B wrote:

First trip out in our last camper we picked up a 1/2 inch bolt. Discount patched it up and it worked fine.

[image]


FWIW, if the hole was greater than 1/4" then the "repair" was not in accordance with Industry Standards for a highway tire. Under some exceptions, repairs can be made on punctures up to 3/8" ( LT Steel Cord Body) tires.

Of all the tire stores out there, Discount Tire has had the reputation of playing fast and loose with tire repair guidelines. For years they use "rope type" tire plugs from the outside for almost all there puncture repairs.

Here's a link to the Tire Industry Association and their guide for PROPER tire repair:

Tire Repair/Tire Industry Association


The tire I had repaired was done by BigO about 10 years ago. They did recommend I only use it as a spare until I got home. I still had about 1000 miles to go on that trip. BigO did not have a tire of same size so that was my best choice at the time.
I would skip the dismount, push in the plug, check pressure and roll. If it is loose push in 2 - 3 plugs.


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time2roll wrote:

RCMAN46 wrote:

Microlite Mike wrote:

B-n-B wrote:

First trip out in our last camper we picked up a 1/2 inch bolt. Discount patched it up and it worked fine.

[image]


FWIW, if the hole was greater than 1/4" then the "repair" was not in accordance with Industry Standards for a highway tire. Under some exceptions, repairs can be made on punctures up to 3/8" ( LT Steel Cord Body) tires.

Of all the tire stores out there, Discount Tire has had the reputation of playing fast and loose with tire repair guidelines. For years they use "rope type" tire plugs from the outside for almost all there puncture repairs.

Here's a link to the Tire Industry Association and their guide for PROPER tire repair:

Tire Repair/Tire Industry Association


The tire I had repaired was done by BigO about 10 years ago. They did recommend I only use it as a spare until I got home. I still had about 1000 miles to go on that trip. BigO did not have a tire of same size so that was my best choice at the time.
I would skip the dismount, push in the plug, check pressure and roll. If it is loose push in 2 - 3 plugs.


Stop 15 miles later, repeat. Order parts for body repair needed.


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@bucky, how many plugged tires you had self destruct in a short time, or ever?


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bucky wrote:

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I would skip the dismount, push in the plug, check pressure and roll. If it is loose push in 2 - 3 plugs.


Stop 15 miles later, repeat. Order parts for body repair needed.
Done it hundreds of time. No body work.

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@bucky, how many plugged tires you had self destruct in a short time, or ever?


Put me down for a "zero", boss. My plugs have all held.


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dedmiston wrote:

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@bucky, how many plugged tires you had self destruct in a short time, or ever?


Put me down for a "zero", boss. My plugs have all held.



I have had several I suspect, and at least 3 I am sure of. Costly enough that I told all my drivers if I saw a plug kit in their truck, they where fired on the spot.
Last 1 was rated at 11,800 lbs at 130 lbs pressure. End of 3rd day, found nail hole center of tread. Told driver to call tire shop, if could not be patched safely for steer, replace it. Driver decided to plug. But what could not be seen from outside was the steel caused the nail to go in at angle. He worked to get the plug to straight in. The plug sealed the tread real good. Next morning that tire had a bulge half the size of my head. Broke it down, on the inside the plug missed the hole by half inch. If we had put a load on the truck that night the truck would of been tore all to swell.
Other times blowout I suspect caused by slow leak in a day's run.

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In the early days working at a gas station we used rubber plugs, then they came out with a mushroom plug you put in a device that inserted it into the tire. Kind of like what they use today with the exception of dismounting the tire and installing it from the inside.
The rag type came into play and shown good results. For every story there will be someone that had a failure, my guess is the successful plug repair outnumbers the failures. HAven't seen any accident reports with the headlines "plugged tire grenades and kills many..."
So...for those old schoolers that grew up scraping' and savin' and doing whatever it took continue with what you know works. for the others.....

... saying a driver would be fired on the spot caught with a tire plug kit..[emoticon]

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