shelbyfv
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nickthehunter wrote: We the People aren’t stupid.... That is correct, we are average.![[emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/wink.gif "wink")
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Grit dog
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Lantley wrote:rhagfo wrote:Lantley wrote:rhagfo wrote:What is the missing information when it comes to EV’s is the future cost of electricity! It will take many dollars to bring up the grid and generating capacity to support all the new EV’s.
Really all it will take is the will to do so.
Creating the car was the challenge.
Developing the infrastructure is more about desire and mindset.
If you are a "Doubting Thomas" it will never work.
There will be 1000 reasons why it can be done.
But if you have the desire to make it happen it can be achieved
I didn’t say that they couldn’t improve the infrastructure, just that it will take lots of dollars and the rates will go up.
That is the real battle of EV's and going green. Who will control the profits? The fossil fuel guys are not giving up on oil dollars without a fight. There is no dominant industrial force in place on the green side to push issues and control where the dollars will come from and who the will go to.
The finacial side of going green is still in its infancy. Until a business plan/ game plan is put in place to finance large scale green energy there will be lots of debate on going green and its benefits/usefullness.
The whole thing is about money and practicality....something the believers in magic with their heads stuck in the sand either can't or won't recognize.
Whether your argument is to save the planet or that you're going to save money, the saving money part will vaporize. Utilities and oil companies are like drug dealers...they aint gonna give it away and theyll charge exactly the most they they're able to for their services...
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^^^Agree that weaning ourselves from fossil fuels will likely be neither cheap nor painless.
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pianotuna
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The latest li polymer battery can recharge in just 5 minutes. It is not in production yet. No information on cold weather use.
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pianotuna wrote:The latest li polymer battery can recharge in just 5 minutes. It is not in production yet. No information on cold weather use. That statement is useless without specifics on the battery...If it is a AAA size, that would not be newsworthy at all
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pianotuna
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Huntindog wrote:pianotuna wrote:The latest li polymer battery can recharge in just 5 minutes. It is not in production yet. No information on cold weather use. That statement is useless without specifics on the battery...If it is a AAA size, that would not be newsworthy at all
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I own a 2018 Chevrolet Bolt EV. Sure it takes a long time to charge when low, but I am able to charge mine while it sits in the driveway. I don't have to go somewhere special to charge it. It takes less than 30 seconds of my time to connect and disconnect the cord. I don't have to stand next to it while it is charging like is necessary when filling a tank with fuel. It would costs about $7 to fully charge the battery from totally dead. I am currently getting way better than the EPA range rating, which is 259 miles. I currently am getting a bit over 300 miles of range. Not bad for $7.
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A certain individual and his cohorts are running a commercial here every 5 minutes informing me how they passed something that will save me $1800.00 per year on my utility costs. While watching it for the 357th time I opened my current electric bill and noticed it more than doubled when compared to the same period last year, where I used less. I wonder what utility/s they are referring to?
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Grit dog
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PButler96 wrote:A certain individual and his cohorts are running a commercial here every 5 minutes informing me how they passed something that will save me $1800.00 per year on my utility costs. While watching it for the 357th time I opened my current electric bill and noticed it more than doubled when compared to the same period last year, where I used less. I wonder what utility/s they are referring to?
Not like political promises have generally gotten much worse, but still 99% Barbara Streisand, maybe 101% in this case.
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Another view on battery manufacturing...
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