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Bordercollie
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I was surprised that Fleetwood stopped making Class C's.
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pnichols
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With the demise of Lazy Daze, it appears that it's going to be very difficult to find new, short length, Class C (with a cab-over bed) motorhomes based on a Ford E450 cutaway chassis with the new V8.
I guess I better keep owning, maintaining, and enjoying our non-slide overkill chassis E450-V10-based Itasca 24V Class C! (I refuse to surrender all the offroad fun to the truck rooftop/SUV rooftop/expedition trailer crowd!)
2005 E450 Itasca 24V Class C
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WinMinnie02
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pnichols wrote:With the demise of Lazy Daze, it appears that it's going to be very difficult to find new, short length, Class C (with a cab-over bed) motorhomes based on a Ford E450 cutaway chassis with the new V8.
I guess I better keep owning, maintaining, and enjoying our non-slide overkill chassis E450-V10-based Itasca 24V Class C! (I refuse to surrender all the offroad fun to the truck rooftop/SUV rooftop/expedition trailer crowd!)
I agree maintain your existing unit and enjoy. My old Winnebago bought new still treats me well. Perform maintenance yourself if you can, RVing is a fun hobby. Not sure why a V8 is a good idea, prefer V10, need enough power when needed.
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katleman
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John S. wrote:Well we lost another quality builder last month. Lazy Daze shut down for good. THe combination of the pandemic and shutdowns with that and the chassis issues and parts issues due to the supply constraints have claimed a great manufacturer. I wonder if they had been in a state that did not shut down if they would have survived
Just bought a used 24’ 2017 Laze Daze in March after being on the wait list for a new one since July 2020. Exceptionally built RV, better than the other class Cs I’ve driven.
In speaking directly with folks at Laze Daze earlier this year, they just could not get E450 chassis to build on from Ford, which is not surprising if you go to buy a new vehicle at any car dealer, there is just no stock available.
It wasn’t California shutdown, the Mothership (factory) wasn’t down much longer than the summer of 2020, they were able finish up what they had to build on later that year, then nothing to build upon.
Sad that Ford didn’t prioritize smaller manufacturers and instead short the large manufacturers just a few chassis, to keep a healthy ecosystem of RV manufacturers.
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WinMinnie02 wrote: Not sure why a V8 is a good idea, prefer V10, need enough power when needed.
Because the Ford gas 7.3 V8 puts out much higher HP and Torque numbers than any version of the Ford V10 ever did.
I have a burn barrel in my yard.
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katleman wrote:
Sad that Ford didn’t prioritize smaller manufacturers and instead short the large manufacturers just a few chassis, to keep a healthy ecosystem of RV manufacturers.
Ford could care less about any healthy ecosystem of RV manufacturers, whatever that is. What they care about is the bottom line on a spreadsheet.
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pnichols
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PButler96 wrote:WinMinnie02 wrote: Not sure why a V8 is a good idea, prefer V10, need enough power when needed.
Because the Ford gas 7.3 V8 puts out much higher HP and Torque numbers than any version of the Ford V10 ever did.
Hmmm .... please compare the V10 HP & Torque as previously used in Ford pickups (the 3-valve version - not the 2-valve version as previously used in the E-Series vans) to their current new V8.
I don't think the new V8 swamps out the good old 3-valve V10 by "that, that" much in the power department. ![[emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/scratchead.gif "scratchead")
(Wasn't Ford's reason for the new V8 -> to improve MPG as much as possible for it's given power ... as compared to the 3-valve V10's MPG for nearly the same power?)
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pnichols wrote:PButler96 wrote:WinMinnie02 wrote: Not sure why a V8 is a good idea, prefer V10, need enough power when needed.
Because the Ford gas 7.3 V8 puts out much higher HP and Torque numbers than any version of the Ford V10 ever did.
Hmmm .... please compare the V10 HP & Torque as previously used in Ford pickups (the 3-valve version - not the 2-valve version as previously used in the E-Series vans) to their current new V8.
I don't think the new V8 swamps out the good old 3-valve V10 by "that, that" much in the power department.
(Wasn't Ford's reason for the new V8 -> to improve MPG as much as possible for it's given power ... as compared to the 3-valve V10's MPG for nearly the same power?)
Why wouldn't you want more power, or even the same, on less fuel? At least the 7.3 isn't known for burning oil, puking plugs, and having exhaust manifolds leak, at least not yet.
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PButler96 wrote:pnichols wrote:PButler96 wrote:WinMinnie02 wrote: Not sure why a V8 is a good idea, prefer V10, need enough power when needed.
Because the Ford gas 7.3 V8 puts out much higher HP and Torque numbers than any version of the Ford V10 ever did.
Hmmm .... please compare the V10 HP & Torque as previously used in Ford pickups (the 3-valve version - not the 2-valve version as previously used in the E-Series vans) to their current new V8.
I don't think the new V8 swamps out the good old 3-valve V10 by "that, that" much in the power department.
(Wasn't Ford's reason for the new V8 -> to improve MPG as much as possible for it's given power ... as compared to the 3-valve V10's MPG for nearly the same power?)
Why wouldn't you want more power, or even the same, on less fuel? At least the 7.3 isn't known for burning oil, puking plugs, and having exhaust manifolds leak, at least not yet.
The reason for my post was: Why spend new dollars for an RV with the new V8 mainly because one thinks it "has (much) more power" ... instead of staying with a V10 you already have in an RV you already own?
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pnichols wrote:PButler96 wrote:pnichols wrote:PButler96 wrote:WinMinnie02 wrote: Not sure why a V8 is a good idea, prefer V10, need enough power when needed.
Because the Ford gas 7.3 V8 puts out much higher HP and Torque numbers than any version of the Ford V10 ever did.
Hmmm .... please compare the V10 HP & Torque as previously used in Ford pickups (the 3-valve version - not the 2-valve version as previously used in the E-Series vans) to their current new V8.
I don't think the new V8 swamps out the good old 3-valve V10 by "that, that" much in the power department.
(Wasn't Ford's reason for the new V8 -> to improve MPG as much as possible for it's given power ... as compared to the 3-valve V10's MPG for nearly the same power?)
Why wouldn't you want more power, or even the same, on less fuel? At least the 7.3 isn't known for burning oil, puking plugs, and having exhaust manifolds leak, at least not yet.
The reason for my post was: Why spend new dollars for an RV with the new V8 mainly because one thinks it "has (much) more power" ... instead of staying with a V10 you already have in an RV you already own?
The reason for my post was to point out that the new 7.3 is a stronger and more efficient engine than any V10 Ford ever made. I never suggested anyone sell a V10 class C just to get the 7.3. That's an assumption on your part. Hang on to your obsolete technology which is easier than getting the V10 to hold onto its spark plugs, exhaust manifolds, and oil.
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